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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #120 on: November 27, 2013, 04:54:47 AM »
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dude you dont have to complement me in every post I make.  you arent gonna be my midway are you?


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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #121 on: November 27, 2013, 08:38:44 AM »

dude you dont have to complement me in every post I make.  you arent gonna be my midway are you?


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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #122 on: November 27, 2013, 05:54:06 PM »
This is the crazy part, by sticking to ancient spec AH can't make use of modern GPUs. D3D9 (which AH apparently doesn't even fully use at that) has a huge load of bottlenecks which have been fixed in latest incarnations.

Do you actually know how Hitech will implement DX shader technology?

Or have you decided you are permanently PO'd at Hitech and want to pollute as many players feelings about this game as you can to make yourself feel better? Destroying is easier and instantly gratuitous opposed to building. One of this forum's greatest failings is the numbers of posters addicted to the universe of shades destruction comes in. But, it sure do feel good and costs you nothing. Kind of like being an atheist bus driver trying to make his school bus full of sunday schoolers cry before they get to the petting zoo full of lambs.

I doubt any of our audience knows the answer to the first question including yourself.
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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #123 on: November 27, 2013, 05:59:51 PM »
Oh, come on now. Don't need to bash the guy.

Sure, it might not work in this case, but at least he is trying to think of something to solve the problem.

Bashing seems to be par around here. Thank gawd there are a few who set the egos aside and try to patiently help. I appreciate their efforts.
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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #124 on: November 27, 2013, 06:04:20 PM »
Saw the new videos on the Facebook page. Looks like a big improvement.

Only about a decade behind the curve now...

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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #125 on: November 27, 2013, 07:29:07 PM »
Bashing seems to be par around here.


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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #126 on: November 27, 2013, 07:35:10 PM »
Saw the new videos on the Facebook page. Looks like a big improvement.

Only about a decade behind the curve now...
You don't remember the graphics from 2003 obviously.

Additionally, that was a preview of a work in progress on a mesh that doesn't take advantage of the higher mesh resolution.

Snide, false statements don't help.  It certainly doesn't look like a 2013 first person shooter, but if you expect it to you will always be disappointed.

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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #127 on: November 27, 2013, 09:40:11 PM »
Will this mean I have to download HiRes Textures? Will the new terrain even have a HiRes pack?  :headscratch:
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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #128 on: November 28, 2013, 02:21:33 AM »
Will this mean I have to download HiRes Textures? Will the new terrain even have a HiRes pack?  :headscratch:

anybody got a face palm picture?


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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #129 on: November 28, 2013, 03:35:27 AM »
Do you actually know how Hitech will implement DX shader technology?

Or have you decided you are permanently PO'd at Hitech and want to pollute as many players feelings about this game as you can to make yourself feel better? Destroying is easier and instantly gratuitous opposed to building. One of this forum's greatest failings is the numbers of posters addicted to the universe of shades destruction comes in. But, it sure do feel good and costs you nothing. Kind of like being an atheist bus driver trying to make his school bus full of sunday schoolers cry before they get to the petting zoo full of lambs.

I doubt any of our audience knows the answer to the first question including yourself.

Hitech just announced that they're going to implement more Dx9 functionality which was previously unsupported to keep hardware specs on low levels, this means that they're not going to take advantage of new technology. It doesn't take much reasoning to deduct that from the crumbs of information we get.

If you think that me looking things realistically and stating things exactly as they are is somehow polluting or destroying you need to get your head checked buddy. If you look that the cup is half full you'll think 'oh great we'll get SM3 support and better use of hardware'. If your cup is half empty you'll think 'oh still no use for the past decade of development in DX'. Denial is much unhealthier than that.
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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #130 on: November 28, 2013, 07:47:28 AM »
to keep hardware specs on low levels

I understand you don't get that HTC isn't selling computers.  ;)

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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #131 on: November 28, 2013, 08:07:06 AM »
I understand you don't get that HTC isn't selling computers.  ;)

They sell software and if hardware requirements are kept at 15 year old levels just because a small portion of customers still use literally ancient hardware, it may be a bad business decision if it means that it makes the game unattractive for new customers.
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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #132 on: November 28, 2013, 08:51:09 AM »
They sell software and if hardware requirements are kept at 15 year old levels just because a small portion of customers still use literally ancient hardware, it may be a bad business decision if it means that it makes the game unattractive for new customers.

No they give the software away and rent out an environment for players to get together and play. The software they give away is structured to be used by as many players/systems as possible to allow the widest range of playablity for the largest subscription base they can get.

If you don't like the software you more than able to move on.... and many have unfortunately. However being a "nitch" game it already has a small following. Should they build the game around the top end rigs and cut out such a large portion of this small group?

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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #133 on: November 28, 2013, 09:06:33 AM »
No they give the software away and rent out an environment for players to get together and play. The software they give away is structured to be used by as many players/systems as possible to allow the widest range of playablity for the largest subscription base they can get.

If you don't like the software you more than able to move on.... and many have unfortunately. However being a "nitch" game it already has a small following. Should they build the game around the top end rigs and cut out such a large portion of this small group?

They don't give any software 'away' to anyone. They sell a service which is based on the piece of code called AH. Most busineses need to keep growing in order to survive. If design decisions are made that keep the company from growing, it's a path of diminishing returns. I can't see how it would be beneficial to them to throttle development just because a portion of existing users are too poor or cheap to upgrade their hardware to this millenium. The only logical reason for doing that is that they believe there is no market and through that no new potential customers. In that case it makes sense to ensure that existing users do not have to quit if they can't upgrade their hardware.

But if that's the case then HTC is in big trouble.

We all saw what happened to WB when they couldn't step up to the competition AH gave it. If they would have upgraded their product before most of the player base had left, they would probably be profitable today. Once your service loses its users your biggest asset is gone and it will be incredibly hard to get them back if the arena gets more or less empty. In my opinion what HTC should do is to implement a strategy that will regain a healthy player base basically at any cost because the online community is the reason AH is AH, not the game itself.
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Re: About the new terrain
« Reply #134 on: November 28, 2013, 09:10:47 AM »
They don't give any software 'away' to anyone. They sell a service which is based on the piece of code called AH. Most busineses need to keep growing in order to survive. If design decisions are made that keep the company from growing, it's a path of diminishing returns. I can't see how it would be beneficial to them to throttle development just because a portion of existing users are too poor or cheap to upgrade their hardware to this millenium. The only logical reason for doing that is that they believe there is no market and through that no new potential customers. In that case it makes sense to ensure that existing users do not have to quit if they can't upgrade their hardware.

But if that's the case then HTC is in big trouble.
I fear just this.For a long long time HTC takes the safe road ,afraid of  to big of any kind of change.And numbers keep shrinking.
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