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Offline Slade

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Window (aluminium strips) Usage as in Battle of Britain
« on: December 27, 2013, 11:57:44 AM »
On a slightly more serious request...

Would it be possible to factor in the usage of chaff as it was used in the Battle of Britain to give the illusion on primitive radar of planes appearing where are not?

User initiated chaff drops of course.  If "chaff" was not the official name please change as appropriate.

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Re: Chaff
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2013, 12:04:07 PM »
chaff as it was used in the Battle of Britain

It wasn't.

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Re: Chaff
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2013, 12:34:19 PM »
RAF bombers certainly used "window", aluminium strips cut to match the wavelength of German radars.  But Snail is right about chaff not being used in the BoB.


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Re: Chaff
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2013, 01:05:03 PM »
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RAF bombers certainly used "window", aluminium strips cut to match the wavelength of German radars.

Bingo.  That is what I meant. I used the term "chaff" in error.
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Re: Window (aluminium strips) Usage as in Battle of Britain
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2013, 02:13:03 PM »
OK.  I'll bite: what's the difference?

According to Wikipedia the code name for the chaff that RAF bombers dropped was "Window".  It's still little bits of metal (or metal coated plastic) sized for the relevant Radar wavelength of the time.

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Re: Window (aluminium strips) Usage as in Battle of Britain
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2013, 02:23:11 PM »
'Window' was just the British code name for it.  The word 'Chaff' came later.
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Re: Window (aluminium strips) Usage as in Battle of Britain
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 06:18:55 PM »
Who's on first? My memory is that chaff/window/duppel by any name was not used untill later in the war therefore not during the Battle of Britain. It was invented early on but not used for fear of giving away the "secret". I think the first use by the allies was the big bombing of Hamburg in...summer of 43?
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Re: Window (aluminium strips) Usage as in Battle of Britain
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2013, 07:59:37 PM »
these units were called RCM - or Radio Counter measures, generally they were Lancaster, Wellington, B-17, Stirling. The Idea was to fly towards a target and drop these "strips" to confuse the radar. One benefit is if the RCM goes one way, the bombers can go another and confuse the luftwaffe.
My biggest problem with RCM aircraft in aces high, 2-3 RCM flying on a front would confuse the hell out of everyone, thus would lead to problems - You wouldn't know if it was 30 aircraft or just 3 RCM in formation. It would easily be abused, only way I can see it is being perked.

Now in the Scenarios, radar jamming would benefit, mainly the Allies - being able to disrupt the interceptors, perhaps pulling some off the line to investigate, the only problem is there needs to be a strict limit of how many RCM are available.

As for night time, It won't happen, all one needs to do is crank his gamma all the way up and those RCM would be useless.
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