Eleventh Dueling Bracket & Results

[LCADolby]

 I noticed JOACH1M used WEP pretty extensively on his way to the fights giving him about a 10 mph speed advantage at the merge in most of the duels (there were exceptions).  While there's no rule against this and won't be for the final matchup in this tournament my question is, should this be allowed?  It would be difficult to enforce until the quarterfinals where films are required but not immpossible as players could review their own films and file a dispute if they wanted to.  

Any one else read this a laugh at how regawddamdiculous this is gradually becoming a farcical? WEP to the merge isn't 'cheating' a duel *facepalm*

[sonic23]

Any one else read this a laugh at how regawddamdiculous this is gradually becoming a farcical? WEP to the merge isn't 'cheating' a duel *facepalm*

Rite lol. There's an easier way to fix this problem it's called "using WEP too".

[BluBerry]

  I noticed JOACH1M used WEP pretty extensively on his way to the fights giving him about a 10 mph speed advantage at the merge in most of the duels (there were exceptions).  While there's no rule against this and won't be for the final matchup in this tournament my question is, should this be allowed?

BE, are you serious right now? There should never be rules regarding WEP usage.

[BaldEagl]

Any one else read this a laugh at how regawddamdiculous this is gradually becoming a farcical? WEP to the merge isn't 'cheating' a duel *facepalm*

I never accused anyone of cheating and simply asked for opinions.  Thank you for yours.

I also said that I already had my own opinion (which is that it's OK) but thought I'd open it up before someone else watched the films and brought it up.

[LCADolby]

From your wording I inferred you were implying cheating. Hence the '     '

[ReVo]

Looking at the proposition from all angles, hearing pros and cons and developing an opinion isn't paranoia.

The films for every fight are posted here... It's paranoia.

[Latrobe]

WEP should always be allowed. I do not like fights where you know everything about your opponent before you even get off the runway. It doesn't make the fight very fun or interesting. In the DA you know who you're fighting, what alt you will merge at, what plane they will be flying, what speed he will be at, and that he won't shoot on the merge. This really doesn't make for very interesting fights IMO. I think the most interesting and fun fights you will find are in the MA where you have no idea who you are fighting, what style of flying they fly, what alt they are at, what planes you'll meet, their E states, or if he's going to take HO shots. You know absolutely nothing about your opponent until you start to merge and figure it out as you go, and this element of the unknown makes fights far more interesting IMO.

Though I know the point of this Dueling Tourney is to Duel so rules have to be set.

[Hoplite]

WEP should always be allowed. I do not like fights where you know everything about your opponent before you even get off the runway. It doesn't make the fight very fun or interesting. In the DA you know who you're fighting, what alt you will merge at, what plane they will be flying, what speed he will be at, and that he won't shoot on the merge. This really doesn't make for very interesting fights IMO. I think the most interesting and fun fights you will find are in the MA where you have no idea who you are fighting, what style of flying they fly, what alt they are at, what planes you'll meet, their E states, or if he's going to take HO shots. You know absolutely nothing about your opponent until you start to merge and figure it out as you go, and this element of the unknown makes fights far more interesting IMO.

Though I know the point of this Dueling Tourney is to Duel so rules have to be set.

While I understand that rules need to be set for these ladders, I think you have to draw the line when considering limiting use of the inherent capabilities of the planes.  The issue with not doing so is where to draw the line i.e. flap usage? dive breaks? tail gun (if the 110 or 410 are drawn)? etc etc etc....

Gets messy and I'm not so sure it's fair.

[ACE]

Damn Joachim. I forgot that it was 3 in a row.

[Nath[BDP]]

If anything, I think duels should start on the deck.  The 7k merge stuff just gives too much lateral separation and speed.  IMO.  It's probably because I have ADD and like close in fights though. 

I have no problem with WEP -- use it before the merge, it runs out and you have less chance of using it when it counts.

If someone wants to ride along to learn something or just for entertainment, I don't see a problem.  Certainly there are some situations where the ride along can give feedback but its not enough to justify trying to enforce it. 

[Nath[BDP]]

Damn Joachim. I forgot that it was 3 in a row.

LOL, me too.  I'm rooting for the underdog now, even though he's a dirty face shooting, mud in your face throwin, sonuvagun.  

[icepac]

A perfectly head on guns cold merge at co-altitude would be fine as long as the contestants are shown to be at the agreed upon merge altitude from first showing icon until the actual merge itself.

[sonic23]

A perfectly head on guns cold merge at co-altitude would be fine as long as the contestants are shown to be at the agreed upon merge altitude from first showing icon until the actual merge itself.

Lol one time in this tournament a dude dove from 7.5k straight to the deck. I was like let me pretend like I'm gonna dive too but now I'm just going to climb and yea it's pretty much over.

[sunfan1121]

  Joachim. I've never had a boring fight against you, this should be fun. 

[sunfan1121]

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