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Offline SirNuke

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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2014, 05:05:31 PM »
if it's 1000lb the typhoon and P51D are good contenders too

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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2014, 10:12:49 AM »
Because their climb rate heavy is very much similar to that of an unpowered crow bar.

From what I've seen, if you want to get 1k there quickly with 10k alt, a P38 is probably about the best you can do.

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i dunno Wiley, i've taken 1000lbs loads in the -d40 (light load for a jug) and getting to 8000ft isn't very difficult with the 6 gun package and 100% fuel. don't see why the m model couldn't haul 1000lbs of ords to 10k faster than the d40, maybe close to as fast as any of the 38s.
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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2014, 10:39:13 AM »
i dunno Wiley, i've taken 1000lbs loads in the -d40 (light load for a jug) and getting to 8000ft isn't very difficult with the 6 gun package and 100% fuel. don't see why the m model couldn't haul 1000lbs of ords to 10k faster than the d40, maybe close to as fast as any of the 38s.

Can you even put ords on an M?  I've never even thought to look.  I'd think it would have to be an N.

Maybe with the lightest gun package it would be a bit better.  TBH I was extrapolating a bit as when I am carrying ord on a jug I'm carrying all I can. I just know a fully loaded 38 way outclimbs the jugs and I wouldn't expect the lighter load to be much different.  The 47 climbs better lighter, so would the 38.

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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2014, 11:24:49 AM »
Um.... the Spit 16.  Load up the 500 lb and pair of 250 lb bombs and up up and away you go.  However, if you need to go 5 sectors then it will be a one way mission.   :aok
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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2014, 11:45:25 AM »
I'd say: Boston or Ki-67...

- Decent bombload Boston 2k x 3, Ki 800kgx3
- Good climb rate bomber
- Very high accuracy
- Good chances to escape especially around 15-20k, but also reasonably easy over 10-12K as well especially if some friendlies around.

It wouldn't take much more time than any other fighter (due to good climb) but it would allow to deliver bombs accurately - over more targets, and due to high speed of these bombers escape safely.


But if you really want only 1000lb of bombs - just take Pony.
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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2014, 11:57:59 AM »
Can you even put ords on an M?  I've never even thought to look.  I'd think it would have to be an N.

Maybe with the lightest gun package it would be a bit better.  TBH I was extrapolating a bit as when I am carrying ord on a jug I'm carrying all I can. I just know a fully loaded 38 way outclimbs the jugs and I wouldn't expect the lighter load to be much different.  The 47 climbs better lighter, so would the 38.

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Wiley, no ords for the M just drop tanks.  Even going with the 8 gun full load ammo and three 500# bombs you get a solid climb with WEP.  I usually go for hangers with rockets, two 1000# bombs, 3/4's fuel and full ammo package.  I don't carry the extra 500# bomb normally.  Using six rockets and the two 1000# bombs leaves with four rockets for de-acking and a boat load of ammo.  The 47 in my mind is the most versatile plane in the game.

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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2014, 07:18:26 PM »
Tempest with one bomb.

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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2014, 10:55:40 PM »
F4U-4 with 2 x 500 lbs
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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2014, 12:09:34 AM »
Try Fw 190D-9 with one 500kg bomb. Climb on WEP then cruise on MIL to target. The Dora's 10/5 min WEP cool down cycle should see you arrive over the target with full WEP available. Might even get to use WEP on the initial acceleration after leveling off depending on range to target.
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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2014, 10:53:31 AM »
F4U-4 with 2 x 500 lbs

Ooh, hadn't factored in perk planes.  For the mission profile described, that could easily be the winner.

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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2014, 10:51:23 PM »
Don't think so, its Me 262 as JABO, or Tempest for recip's - if going by A-H performance charts..
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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2014, 11:30:57 PM »
Don't think so, its Me 262 as JABO, or Tempest for recip's - if going by A-H performance charts..
The Me262 in AH cannot carry bombs, so it isn't in contention.  Even if it could I am not certain that it would be faster than some of the piston engined fighters already mentioned when the short distance to the target is taken into consideration.
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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2014, 11:57:02 PM »
Yeah, its ironic that A-H takes the opposite tack to A.H. (uncle Adolf), on the `262..

If historically based - you could run a RATO equipped, bombed up JABO`262, (or RATO'd Ar 234)..
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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2014, 09:27:11 AM »
Ill take the jug any day. P-38 loses anything gained when it has to maple leaf down before the drop so it doesn't compress. Plus, if there are wirbs waiting, speed is the key.

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Re: Quickest Plane to Modest Ord Delivery
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2014, 11:30:25 AM »
Ill take the jug any day. P-38 loses anything gained when it has to maple leaf down before the drop so it doesn't compress. Plus, if there are wirbs waiting, speed is the key.

Try going in at about 45 degrees.  You can control your speed much easier.  The rocket ladder for the P38L gun sight Bustr publishes is dead on at 45 degrees.  Use the bottom of the glass at the top of the gunsight lens for bomb drops.  When taking out a hanger, I will fire rockets first then let the nose come up and to the hanger for the bomb drop.  Takes a bit of practice.