Tempest V turn radius in Aces High

[Widewing]

Which is why the Tempest's superb roll rate trumped mere horizontal turning contests..

The FW 190 had a much faster rate of roll than the Tempest. According to the document you linked, the 190 and Tempest had very similar turning circles. So, where is the advantage for the Tempest?

"Turning Circles
41. There is very little difference in turning circles between the two aircraft. If anything a very slight advantage lies with the Tempest.

Rate of Roll
42. The Tempest V cannot compare with the FW 190. "

Compared to the Mustang III:

"Turning Circle
28. The Tempest is not quite as good as the Mustang III.

Rate of Roll
29. The Tempest is not so good. This attribute may be improved upon later aircraft with re-designed ailerons. "

[J.A.W.]

FYI that AFDU trial also used the early series low-boost , non-spring tab aileron Tempest..

(note: Grumman picked up on those Hawker patented spring tabs, along with the bubble canopy).

The A-H Tempest is the later series, but check the comment Tempest vs  the Spitfire roll rate.

High speed roll-wise - even well above 400mph, the Tempest was still rolling real good..

[Widewing]

Here's the charted roll rates of various WWII fighters as tested by NACA.



The fastest rolling fighter at high speed (above 350 mph) was the P-38L.

[J.A.W.]

& Tempest roll..

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/tempest/temproll.jpg

According to Tempest test/combat pilot R. Beamont..

 The Tempest retained useful roll rate right out to its high Vne of 540 IAS mph..

A P-38 trying to roll at 540 IAS mph.. don't think so.. whether Kelsey reckoned so or not..

What did the official USAAF tests show the power assisted aileron `38 made..

[hlbly]

WideWing quit trying to make sense bro it makes your head hurt after awhile.

[J.A.W.]

WideWing quit trying to make sense bro it makes your head hurt after awhile.

Take a couple of Aspirin..

[hlbly]

Take a couple of Aspirin..

Because gashats never quit. Just another flaw the cheerleaders want to sweep under the carpet.

[Widewing]

Interestingly enough, when Grumman installed and tested spring tab ailerons on an F6F-3, they saw reduced roll rate at speeds below 280 mph, but a significant improvement above that speed.

https://archive.org/stream/flighttestsoflat00lang#page/n0/mode/2up

[J.A.W.]

Because gashats never quit. Just another flaw the cheerleaders want to sweep under the carpet.

Yeah, right - since that is your 2nd non-constructive post ( of 2) on this thread already..

[J.A.W.]

Interestingly enough, when Grumman installed and tested spring tab ailerons on an F6F-3, they saw reduced roll rate at speeds below 280 mph, but a significant improvement above that speed.

https://archive.org/stream/flighttestsoflat00lang#page/n0/mode/2up

Yeah the Brits ran tests on their spring-tab F6F too, & queried whether the fabric-skinned ailerons ballooning out
were the culprit..

[BaldEagl]

Yeah, right - since that is your 2nd non-constructive post ( of 2) on this thread already..

I think you should ignore him.  

[J.A.W.]

I think you should ignore him.  

Now that IS a good call, thanks Baldy..( I did dig that B-26 beasting.)

[J.A.W.]

Another roll comparison.. At high speeds "Tempest...best"

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/waderoll.jpg

[MiloMorai]

Another roll comparison.. At high speeds "Tempest...best"

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/waderoll.jpg

Nice graphic as it shows the Tempest wasn't that great at speeds combat typically took place at.

[BaldEagl]

Another roll comparison.. At high speeds "Tempest...best"

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/waderoll.jpg

Yeah yeah but what's it's roll/distance?