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Offline muzik

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« on: January 29, 2014, 09:30:40 PM »
Some time ago there was a wish posted about head shake that evolved into a discussion about the physical effects on pilots. In particular uncoordinated flight and violent maneuvers. I've seen this issue come up in other unrelated posts. One was about learning/practicing coordinated flight in AH.

I found the the misconceptions about the reality of air combat interesting and was reminded about these forum conversations when I found this video that demonstrates the "rag doll" effect as I called it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1gOYKmOCE

The manuever being conducted is described starting at 10:45

The rag doll effect is related starting at 11:38

The issues even though unrelated essentially came down to how real world flying (civil, professional and aerobatic) compared to combat flying (real or in game.)
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Re: comparing
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2014, 03:11:57 AM »
I hope this doesn't translate to someone in my home smacking the back of my head as I try that "reversement".
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2014, 06:21:39 AM »
In game it is almost impossible to pull a trick like that to break out from the fight and get away...

once in the icon range it is almost impossible to loose visual on your target or make you target to loose visual on you...
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2014, 08:39:05 AM »
 I would be glad to pay perk points for a P-51D that can fly like these Dog Fight 51s do. But then everyone would be flying the P-51D and the game would be called P-51D High lol.

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Re: comparing
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2014, 12:03:09 PM »
I hope this doesn't translate to someone in my home smacking the back of my head as I try that "reversement".

If anyone needed it...

 :devil

In game it is almost impossible to pull a trick like that to break out from the fight and get away...

once in the icon range it is almost impossible to loose visual on your target or make you target to loose visual on you...

I have never tried this move in AH. Recently I snapped my stick back in a pony, I was fast but not sure how fast, and pulled the wings off of it. I couldn't believe it happened but it was the only explanation.
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Re: comparing
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2014, 12:39:47 PM »
If anyone needed it...

 :devil

I'll be sure to be the first volunteer to offer you said needed smack
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Re: comparing
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2014, 12:54:36 PM »
I would be glad to pay perk points for a P-51D that can fly like these Dog Fight 51s do. But then everyone would be flying the P-51D and the game would be called P-51D High lol.
Its under modeled,and fact is, it needs to be.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2014, 12:59:57 PM »
Its under modeled,and fact is, it needs to be.

ROFLMAO

Yeah..........ok............. .sure
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Re: comparing
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2014, 01:18:32 PM »
I would be glad to pay perk points for a P-51D that can fly like these Dog Fight 51s do. But then everyone would be flying the P-51D and the game would be called P-51D High lol.

Hardly anyone flies the P-51D anymore:

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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2014, 01:19:35 PM »
ROFLMAO

Yeah..........ok............. .sure
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Re: comparing
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2014, 01:25:40 PM »
Hardly anyone flies the P-51D anymore:


Looks like the hurri 1 is the lest used,Lets all you pilots that think your something start flying that for 2 tours,get it to number 3 or 4 most flown.
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Re: comparing
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2014, 01:37:54 PM »
Its under modeled,and fact is, it needs to be.

Of all the planes in the game, the one HiTech has actually flown a considerable amount is the P-51D.

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2014, 01:41:59 PM »
Of all the planes in the game, the one HiTech has actually flown a considerable amount is the P-51D.
Yep and at a convention it was said or it  was (rumored) its under modeled on purpose,  or it WOULD be called p 51 high.
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Re: comparing
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 01:45:30 PM »
Yep and at a convention it was said or it  was (rumored) its under modeled on purpose,  or it WOULD be called p 51 high.

ROFLMAO...............serious ly................


Somebody migh have heard somebody say something one time when they were drunk about something............
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Re: comparing
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 01:47:26 PM »
ROFLMAO...............seriously................


Somebody migh have heard somebody say something one time when the were drunk about something............
Opp my legs getting humped.
So why am i not to believe all the p 51 sticks that flew in WW II that say it dose things ours dose not,and belive HTC more?

(Edit) Zoney you in on this only flying the hurri 1 for a tour or two?   :rock
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