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Offline mbailey

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Computer to run the game
« on: March 18, 2014, 05:16:58 AM »
Looking to purchase a gaming computer...ive posted the specs below..   . Im looking to run this game...and my son to run a game called Arma(?)  Just curious what the computer gurus here think.... Im thinking ill get Win7 instead of 8 though...

My knowledge is about nil when it comes to them...I could build you a store to sell them out of...a home to take them to, and a desk to put them on...but when it comes to the computer itself.....lets just say that id have a better chance looking intelligent having a conversation about partical physics with Sheldon, than a discussion about computers...

- NVIDIA GTX 770 2GB
- Intel Core i5 4570 CPU
- 8GB 1600MHz Memory
- 120GB Corsair Neutron GTX SSD
- 1TB 7200RPM HDD
- Upgraded CPU Air Cooling
- ASUS H81 Chipset Motherboard
- 600W Corsair CX Power Supply
- DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW
- Microsoft Windows 8.1


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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2014, 06:20:03 AM »
Since AH runs fine on a 6 years old upper-mid range puter, this one should be able to run this game on 3 monitors.
Arma3 would be fine in full HD, maximum details.
Its a very good machine  :aok
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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 01:25:01 PM »
Very good indeed! I'd change the motherboard to at least a H87 for better performance or even Z87 if you plan to overclock in the future. There's also been argumentation whether a SSD would provide any measurable benefit in games versus a fast regular HDD, other than that Windows and the games will load faster. 
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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2014, 03:55:11 PM »
Always buy the most puter you can afford Bailey. I try and buy one good enough to last me 4 or 5 years with upgrades at least.

I'll say this I am very impressed with Digital Storm an outfit out of CA. This is the most problem free 'puter Ive ever had and they have terrific support.
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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2014, 06:53:58 PM »
Thats who makes this one....    :aok
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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2014, 09:45:44 PM »
You have selected a PCIe 2.0 MB and a PCIe 3.0 GPU.
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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2014, 10:19:51 PM »
You have selected a PCIe 2.0 MB and a PCIe 3.0 GPU.

^ this

and also, that particular video card has a "MINIMAL REQUIREMENT" of at least a 600 watt PSU..... you might want to consider going up to a 750 or 850 watt PSU....

also, as Bizman suggested, I would try stepping up to the Z87 , or at least the H87........ me personally would want the Z87 chipset


also, you might want to see if they can install Windows 7 64 bit, instead of Windows 8.1......  if possible


Good Luck on your build

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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014, 10:54:31 PM »
mbailey, look up on youtube about how to build a computer yourself and you will see how easy it is.  you basically need to know how to use a screwdriver.  it is pretty simple.  and you could probably get better components than if somebody else builds it for you.

I built my own when I knew as much as you do now.  now I can take it apart and put it back together without my reading glasses :).


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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2014, 11:29:25 PM »
I wouldn't use a 128gb SSD.  I've been fighting my laptop OS installation on an 80GB SSD and I wouldn't ever recommend anything less than 256GB SSD because you'll be endlessly fiddling with the computer keeping it from filling up the boot drive.

Samsung 840 Evo SSDs are as inexpensive as they get, and they're almost as fast as the fastest SSDs out there.  Get a 256 or 500GB Samsung 840 evo or a crucial M500 and you'll avoid hassles down the road.

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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2014, 03:34:08 AM »
You have selected a PCIe 2.0 MB and a PCIe 3.0 GPU.
Absolutely meaningless. PCIe 2.0 is not a bottleneck, nor is even close being one.
and also, that particular video card has a "MINIMAL REQUIREMENT" of at least a 600 watt PSU..... you might want to consider going up to a 750 or 850 watt PSU....
Needless, its just throwing money out from the window.
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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2014, 03:57:19 AM »
Absolutely meaningless. PCIe 2.0 is not a bottleneck, nor is even close being one.Needless, its just throwing money out from the window.

I was just about to say the same. The PSU is so and so but will be enough as long as he chooses a quality PSU like XFX black or Seasonic gold/platinum series.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2014, 03:58:59 AM »
I wouldn't use a 128gb SSD.  I've been fighting my laptop OS installation on an 80GB SSD and I wouldn't ever recommend anything less than 256GB SSD because you'll be endlessly fiddling with the computer keeping it from filling up the boot drive.

Samsung 840 Evo SSDs are as inexpensive as they get, and they're almost as fast as the fastest SSDs out there.  Get a 256 or 500GB Samsung 840 evo or a crucial M500 and you'll avoid hassles down the road.

Or skip the SSD and get a 2TB western digital black.


I second this comment also. 128Gb is a joke it will get filled in an instant especially if you install a couple of games on it. 250 or 500Gb Evo is much recommended instead.
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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2014, 07:24:08 AM »
Oh, my mistake! I thought we are talking about a surround system with three monitors? If so it absolutely does make a difference. The H81 will never support SLI or Crossfire, either. So, multi-monitor will hit the wall at two displays. The 770 is capable of four displays, but not on the system described, at least not at anything like what it would do on a PCIe 3.0 MB.

So  in the case of multi-monitors the comment about "nor is it even close to being one" is utterly wrong.
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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2014, 08:21:12 AM »
Oh, my mistake! I thought we are talking about a surround system with three monitors? If so it absolutely does make a difference. The H81 will never support SLI or Crossfire, either. So, multi-monitor will hit the wall at two displays. The 770 is capable of four displays, but not on the system described, at least not at anything like what it would do on a PCIe 3.0 MB.

So  in the case of multi-monitors the comment about "nor is it even close to being one" is utterly wrong.
Cannot follow the reason-causatility relationship in your sentences. Maybe its my fault.
But 3 full hd monitors can be run easily even on a HD5970. Okay, not the crysis3, but still. And that was many years before this PCIe3.0 hype.
Anyways, if it isnt more expensive, it doesnt hurt to have the newer standard even if its practically useless.

SLI/CF has no real point in it as an upper-mid range card - 770/280x - is able to run anything in full-hd/max setting easily, or on 3 monitors with little compromisses. A real high end card will handle anything for like 4 years, let alone the dual-gpu monsters. Of course, anything is possible, but it only lenghtens your e-peebody just as much as it lightens your wallet.
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Re: Computer to run the game
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2014, 08:38:28 AM »
So the weak points are the 120SSD and the PSU?  So if i bump up to a 256 and lets say a 750PSU i should be good to go?  Id like to be able in the future to upgrade the computer....and figured this one may be able to do that.

The games im looking to run are AH (of course)  Arma series (son i have no clue what that is) , Napoleon Total War, and my son wants to upload games off Steam(?)  

This is my first gaming computer.....the one I run now is ancient......and a Dell Dimension which is twice as bad...vid card (if u wantto call it that) is an x300?    Does literally nothing.

I wont be running 3 monitors...just 1 a 23"  

Is Windows 8 really that bad? or should i have them upload Win7 ?


Guys, i really appreciate all the feedback.....  :salute 

 
« Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 08:56:42 AM by mbailey »
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Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.

When the game is over, the Kings and Pawns all go into the same box.