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Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« on: March 20, 2014, 04:19:13 AM »
If a rider has one of those flip top helmets (full face but the whole front flips up so you can see his face).....should he still be required to take the helmet off when paying for petrol?


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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2014, 04:35:14 AM »
If a rider has one of those flip top helmets (full face but the whole front flips up so you can see his face).....should he still be required to take the helmet off when paying for petrol?



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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2014, 04:42:15 AM »
Yeah that's what I think.  No-one so far has managed to give me a good reason.

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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2014, 04:51:32 AM »
I've always removed a full face but my winter flip front I dont
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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2014, 05:03:24 AM »
So what would you do if you were told to in a gas station....would it make any difference if you'd walked into Walmart with it on (but flipped up)?


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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2014, 06:15:24 AM »
Is this one of those Brit things where you have to prove your a good citizen and make it plain that your NOT a robber by showing your face?
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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2014, 06:23:19 AM »
Is this one of those Brit things where you have to prove your a good citizen and make it plain that your NOT a robber by showing your face?

I used to work night shift at a gas station in the US and if you came into my store with a full face motorcycle helmet on I would sure as hell have asked you to take it off.
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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2014, 06:34:26 AM »
Is this one of those Brit things where you have to prove your a good citizen and make it plain that your NOT a robber by showing your face?

Is it any different than wearing a bandana?


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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2014, 07:03:06 AM »
yes it is a Brit thing, mainly so they've got your face on CCTV if you did rob the place.....and yes I have no problem removing a full face helmet for that reason.  However, I still get demands to remove my flip top helmet when it's open with my face showing.....and I really don't see why.

So far, no-one has managed to give me a logical reason why.

The thing that P's me off is the way some of these monkeys working in gas stations go about this.  I've even had demands to remove the helmet at the pump, before I've even got any petrol!


I pulled into a BP station just off the A417 in Gloucestershire and went to fill up.....but nothing happened, pump not switched on. I did hear an odd noise coming out of the PA system at the garage but whatever it was was just bips and screeches. After a few minutes of waiting I went into the garage, with the front of the lid flipped up, walked up to the desk and asked what the problem was, only to be told:

"Take your helmet off at the pump."

"Why?"

"It's company policy."

"Why?"

"Cos it is."

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"You want me to remove a piece of safety equipment while sat on my bike parked on a slippery garage forecourt with spilt diesel and sand everywhere with cars driving past me at close quarters?  No, absolutely not."

"Well you can't have any petrol then."

"Fine, where's the next garage?"

"Oh....20 miles up the road!"

"Well now you've lost all credibility cos you're lying to me.  There's one 3 miles away and you know it.  I think you're lying about the rule as well. I want your name, I want your managers name and I want the area managers name and contact details."

And this fella turned purple.

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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2014, 07:06:55 AM »
"What colour hair did the gentleman have that did a runner?"

"I don't know, he had a helmet on."

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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2014, 07:12:02 AM »
I used to work night shift at a gas station in the US and if you came into my store with a full face motorcycle helmet on I would sure as hell have asked you to take it off.

Ive stood in many a gas station drinking coffee , in full uniform, and unless its warm out I couldnt care less if someone is dressed like that. Plus I used to ride and know how cold it is on a bike.

It might surprise many of you but its unusual to have some knuckleheads rob one of these joints while masked. Rocket scientists they are not and its almost impossible for their pea brains to look farther into the future then the next jab into a vein. And Ive looked at many, many robbery videos. Many are at least smart enough to know a mask will draw attention.

So it depends. First thing you have to ask yourself is, is it cold out? 2nd is did you actually see the guy ride up on a bike?

In the end a gas station is PVT property so if they dont want to follow your rules then they can go elsewhere for gas or a pack of smokes.
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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2014, 07:18:46 AM »
"What colour hair did the gentleman have that did a runner?"

"I don't know, he had a helmet on."

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ok, that's actually a logical reason.  It's not a good reason.....but it is logical.


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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2014, 07:41:16 AM »
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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2014, 07:42:25 AM »
Ive stood in many a gas station drinking coffee , in full uniform, and unless its warm out I couldnt care less if someone is dressed like that. Plus I used to ride and know how cold it is on a bike.

It might surprise many of you but its unusual to have some knuckleheads rob one of these joints while masked. Rocket scientists they are not and its almost impossible for their pea brains to look farther into the future then the next jab into a vein. And Ive looked at many, many robbery videos. Many are at least smart enough to know a mask will draw attention.

So it depends. First thing you have to ask yourself is, is it cold out? 2nd is did you actually see the guy ride up on a bike?

In the end a gas station is PVT property so if they dont want to follow your rules then they can go elsewhere for gas or a pack of smokes.

I agree that most robbers won't bother to wear a mask but I still preferred to see customers faces. I did however have somebody pull a beer run while wearing a motorcycle helmet. He grabbed two 24 packs and took off out the door pausing only to hand the beer to the guy on the back of his CBR600 who held it as they rode off.

Of course I don't really understand why anybody would have a problem with taking their helmet off in the first place. I don't think anybody ever gave me any flak about it when asked which is a minor miracle considering all the crap people went off the deep end about.
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Re: Argument about motorcycle helmets....
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2014, 07:44:40 AM »
I hate you Curv.   :furious  :D


ok, that's actually a logical reason.  It's not a good reason.....but it is logical.



LOL

You KNOW I had to chime in.  

We have the same silly rules here but only when you enter the station buiding itself.  The cashier will tell you to take off your helmet no matter what.  It is a power trip thing.  They love to boss people around using silly rules as justification.
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