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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #120 on: March 29, 2014, 07:00:36 PM »
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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #121 on: March 29, 2014, 07:02:47 PM »
Because your thread title. "The decline of ACM in the MA" and the text contained in your OP were clearly intended to position you as having superior ACM to that of your filmed "opponents" (quotes because we don't even know for sure if they knew you were there or not prior to the film start).  Positioning yourself as having superior ACM then overshooting (which you did) and letting you're "inferior opponents" kill you (which they didn't) would have been counterproductive to your agena, therefore you'd never have posted.

Not only did your opponents show inferior ACM but so did you and maybe worse.  You overshot then made a second pass in both cases by using a flat turn.  Clearly you don't understand the use of throttle, flaps or vertical rolls to maintain position on your opponents.  You got lucky that you truely did face inferior opponents.

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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #122 on: March 29, 2014, 07:14:30 PM »
I never bragged about anything. I can understand why you may assume that though since that is the norm here. This was more of a, "what one can expect to see in an average sortie in aces high nowadays". Because more and more nowadays, unfortunately, this is the type of thing you'll see on any given flight. You're right they should've known better they have both been playing for years, and again, that is the point of the thread, they're not especially bad, they're the new norm.

Lol it's not the new norm. This is just a reaction. Its something anyone would do if they weren't prepared. Youll likely see this a lot throughout the years. Of course they were trying to dodge your bullets. Its not sad. They just wanted you to miss. Be happy they sucked and you got the kills, this isn't what AH is turning into bro, and I think its funny you are making a big deal about it when this is something, being a fighter, that you hope to come across. The easier the kills the better man.
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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #123 on: March 29, 2014, 07:28:27 PM »
The muppets spent about 5 years starting posts like this. They were self serving and snotty. But, every last muppet could wipe most of us up in the DA when it came down to it. Even they have for their own reasons backed off on pointing fingers at others lately to pump themselves up in our forum wars. Of late they keep it to POSTS among ACM enthusiasts who like the contest of seeing who's is bigger with words.

It is no secret today that many players do not value ACM, nor understand ACM. It was no secret for the past 12 years that many players fit this profile. There was simply a much larger cadre of ACM enthusiasts who kept ACM in the for front in the MA back then. Today, flying in packs with altitude, or mutually supporting each other on the deck to swamp a single foolish hero has become normalized game play.

Floob if you want ACM, go to the DA with the muppets and tell them how bad arse you are. They will happily listen and enthusiastically allow you to put your kester up to the test of your mouth. Other wise, what is the point to filming paying customers and denigrating how they choose to play this game in public? Are you the kind of citizen who peeks in your neighbors homes and calls the police if the family is not to your interpretation of local statutes?   
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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #124 on: March 29, 2014, 08:01:08 PM »
This.
Still waiting for you to tell me the several things i did wrong.
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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #125 on: March 29, 2014, 08:05:49 PM »
Still waiting for you to tell me the several things i did wrong.

Pretty much everything BaldEagle said. You poorly managed your E and used horizontal reversals against planes that could easily have outturned you, if that had used proper maneuvering. In addition, you failed to align your plane of maneuvering and instead jammed hard rudder, overcompensating, multiple times, bleeding off the airspeed you would have needed to stay competitive with a competent pilot in an attempt to hit them, which you failed at. Not only that, you failed to lead your guns on the first kill, instead aiming directly at (and slightly above) it, while it was apparent they were descending vertically.

Sure, everyone makes mistakes (heck, I make more than enough of them), yet for you to come here and mock others while flying like that? Really?
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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #126 on: March 29, 2014, 08:10:32 PM »
Because your thread title. "The decline of ACM in the MA" and the text contained in your OP were clearly intended to position you as having superior ACM to that of your filmed "opponents" (quotes because we don't even know for sure if they knew you were there or not prior to the film start).  Positioning yourself as having superior ACM then overshooting (which you did) and letting you're "inferior opponents" kill you (which they didn't) would have been counterproductive to your agena, therefore you'd never have posted.

Not only did your opponents show inferior ACM but so did you and maybe worse.  You overshot then made a second pass in both cases by using a flat turn.  Clearly you don't understand the use of throttle, flaps or vertical rolls to maintain position on your opponents.  You got lucky that you truely did face inferior opponents.
I didnt over shoot. I flew past somebody faking a seizure. That's the right thing to do, let them get it out of their system. If you think i shouldve chopped throttle and bled E to become as slow as the spaz then youre a dummy.
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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #127 on: March 29, 2014, 08:14:17 PM »
Pretty much everything BaldEagle said. You poorly managed your E and used horizontal reversals against planes that could easily have outturned you, if that had used proper maneuvering. In addition, you failed to align your plane of maneuvering and instead jammed hard rudder, overcompensating, multiple times, bleeding off the airspeed you would have needed to stay competitive with a competent pilot in an attempt to hit them, which you failed at. Not only that, you failed to lead your guns on the first kill, instead aiming directly at (and slightly above) it, while it was apparent they were descending vertically.

Sure, everyone makes mistakes, yet for you to come here and mock others while flying like that?
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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #128 on: March 29, 2014, 08:15:28 PM »
The muppets spent about 5 years starting posts like this. They were self serving and snotty. But, every last muppet could wipe most of us up in the DA when it came down to it. Even they have for their own reasons backed off on pointing fingers at others lately to pump themselves up in our forum wars. Of late they keep it to POSTS among ACM enthusiasts who like the contest of seeing who's is bigger with words.

It is no secret today that many players do not value ACM, nor understand ACM. It was no secret for the past 12 years that many players fit this profile. There was simply a much larger cadre of ACM enthusiasts who kept ACM in the for front in the MA back then. Today, flying in packs with altitude, or mutually supporting each other on the deck to swamp a single foolish hero has become normalized game play.

Floob if you want ACM, go to the DA with the muppets and tell them how bad arse you are. They will happily listen and enthusiastically allow you to put your kester up to the test of your mouth. Other wise, what is the point to filming paying customers and denigrating how they choose to play this game in public? Are you the kind of citizen who peeks in your neighbors homes and calls the police if the family is not to your interpretation of local statutes?   
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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #129 on: March 29, 2014, 08:42:10 PM »
I didnt over shoot. I flew past somebody faking a seizure. That's the right thing to do, let them get it out of their system. If you think i shouldve chopped throttle and bled E to become as slow as the spaz then youre a dummy.

LOL...  :rofl

Flying past somebody unintentionally IS overshooting.

You had two options both equally as effective; chop throttle and saddle up for the kill as they cross your sights (looking at your film there weren't any other enemies close) or use the vert to roll over them to maintain position behind them.  

For a guy who claims to like to saddle up you did a piss poor job of it by flying past them.   :rofl

I hope one day you'll do that for me and let me get "it" out of my system.
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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #130 on: March 29, 2014, 08:51:29 PM »
Bustr knows what im taking about.

That you're self-serving and snotty without the skill to back it up?

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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #131 on: March 29, 2014, 09:07:42 PM »
Meh the old time wheels whos opinion I respect have already agreed with me. Even bustr, but he had to get a barb in because i hurt his feelings the other day so thats ok. The only slobber donkeys griefing me now are established ultra melons and ones that have a beef with me personally from the past and Skyyr who is apperantly a rauml protoge.

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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #132 on: March 29, 2014, 09:49:15 PM »
Meh the old time wheels whose opinion I respect have already agreed with me. Even bustr, but he had to get a barb in because i hurt his feelings the other day so that's ok. The only slobber donkeys griefing me now are established ultra melons and ones that have a beef with me personally from the past and Skyyr who is apparently a rauml protege.

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Re: The decline of ACM in the MA. (flim)
« Reply #134 on: March 29, 2014, 11:37:48 PM »
looks to me like they just stalled as hard as they could with their eyes closed and hoped for the best. I give them props for evading the initial pass. Had higher enemies come from higher to save the poor fellow, Floob could have got picked himself, leaving the other guy still alive. They were obviously new. A lot of people have a hard time in the defense position, that's why you see so many runners and 190s, they avoid any type of defense conflict. If you notice, generally 190s will do the same floppy tactics when you get a good lead on their 6. The guys in this film didn't know what they were doing, yes lack of ACM for sure, but I know for a fact you did the same thing when you were learning this game.

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