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Offline FLOOB

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #60 on: April 02, 2014, 08:27:07 PM »
Last week I took out a low formation of B-17s with a shore battery, 1 hit and they all went down.
It was very satisfying :D
How? When I did it the shell didn't detonate.
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #61 on: April 02, 2014, 08:38:51 PM »
Man this old whine again.  Its simple don't ho a tank and you wont get shot down :devil

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #62 on: April 02, 2014, 09:05:26 PM »
I don't see what you are complaining about...a tank fires a turret in three dimensional space.  Your plane flies in this three dimensional space.  If a tank fires a turret and it happens to hit your plane in this three dimensional space you die.  Why is this unrealistic?


Let's expand on this a little bit..  The tank gunner doesn't actually hit an aircraft with the main gun.. it lobs a shell into the air and the airplane flies into it.  This is the same way bombing fleets from 30k is.  The bombers do not actually hit the ships with their bombs... they drop their bombs and the ships run into the bombs. 

The shell and the  bombs are mindlessly traversing their non-altering paths.  It's up to the drivers of the planes and ships to ensure they don't try to occupy the same space at the same time.

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #63 on: April 02, 2014, 09:33:55 PM »
Man this old whine again.  Its simple don't ho a tank and you wont get shot down :devil

Since they have rotating turrets, you always HO a tank   :D
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #64 on: April 02, 2014, 09:34:17 PM »
{Man this old whine again.  Its simple don't ho a tank and you wont get shot down}

Then Hitech should mount the Mk108 in the K4 in a manner that wherever you look as the pilot, the tater will fire your line of sight. Then HOing a K4 will be a 360 degree affaire regardless of the direction the pilot is flying. Ooops, some modern attack Helo almost have that with the 30mm slaved to the pilot's 21st century super TrackIR. Back to M1 Abrams and (DM11 or AMP)rounds and it's fire control computer.

But, if I were a lawyer this is moot where GV are concerned because the front page only says: Aces High takes the "art and science of vintage WW1 and WW2 air combat".....

Thus no expectation set of: Aces High takes the "art and science of vintage WW2 ground combat".....

So all we really need is to have M1 Abrams skins made for each of our tanks since only our planes are reasonably limited to WW2 technical limitations. Our tanks are in a whole other time period class when they interact with our WW2 technology limited planes due to their commander mode. I had not thought about it but, unlinking the commander view 360 from turning the turret would place them back in WW2. I watch many tanks these days from full zoom in my IL2, turn the turret in concert with my IL2 timing for the entry or exit shot. I'm more impressed by the ones who understand turning the whole GV to face my attack run with armor too thick for the NS-37 to penetrate. Tanks can turn faster than an IL2 in a tighter circle neutralizing the angle of impact of the 37mm round.

In ww2 tanks often had some form of mobile ack moving with them expecting air attacks. We have bomber formation mode at the players choice. Why not 1-2 mobile ack formation truck or half track mode for tanks. Give them the same unlimited ammo and AI aiming of field ack. But, once destroyed that's it until the player re-ups another tank. If the player is killed the drones disappear. Supplies can fix them but, one box to each vehicle, even if they don't need them. Then you can get rid of the M1 Abrams computer aided main gun shooting planes currently in force.

Some unintended consequences would be mobile ack hoards brought along to frustrate low attacking aircraft by spawn campers or spawners in their assult. Base defenders upping tanks and not wirbels so they can kill jabo while defending against tanks, even using their AI as decoys. The lone M4 rocketeer might get more buildings down in your town with his own AI ack wagons when the lone fighter ups to see why an out of the way town is flashing. Even that GV who always sneeks up to the end of your runway might just make things worse.  
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #65 on: April 02, 2014, 10:06:58 PM »
Many times, if not most of the time, I see a tank approaching an airfield bristling with activity, I see countless fighters (and even tank busters) flying in front of his barrel in the most careless (to word it mildly) way. Trying to strafe down a tank by attacking it frontally from almost level flight. Even Il-2s I see doing this more often then not, instead of taking their time to set up a proper attack run. It's similar to the habit of attacking bomber formations by slowly crawling up their six.

To add to this it is almost impossible to destroy any tank with a frontal attack from an airplane using gunfire.

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #66 on: April 02, 2014, 10:09:24 PM »
You guys need to ask Hitech about the first time they ever shot a tank round in the game during testing.

Hitech, what happened the first time your team ever shot a tank round in the game during testing?

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #67 on: April 02, 2014, 10:55:15 PM »
Hitech, what happened the first time your team ever shot a tank round in the game during testing?

He shot down an aircraft from a tank
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #68 on: April 03, 2014, 07:38:06 AM »
He shot down an aircraft from a tank
Then raised a glass of scotch and released the update... :p
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #69 on: April 03, 2014, 08:25:25 AM »
To add to this it is almost impossible to destroy any tank with a frontal attack from an airplane using gunfire.


And strafe down a cruiser doing the same ...
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #70 on: April 03, 2014, 08:33:01 AM »
How? When I did it the shell didn't detonate.

ive done it many times, it detonates, and even does the crater animation in mid air  :D
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #71 on: April 03, 2014, 09:38:08 AM »
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2014, 09:51:40 AM »
I love it when I can nail that con out a range with my main gun.  Quite satisfying, specially when it's the lead bomber in a set about to drop. :devil  I've also been nipped by the main gun.  Sometimes, I just sit there going, "WTF?  That was one HELL of a shot! Woo!".  Most times it's, "Damn it!  Stay away from the pointy end of a turret...spits death at you. :bhead".


Learn to attack tanks properly, and you won't have the issue as much. :)  Now if you are like me, and know how to do it, but still go about it half-arsed, well enjoy the hilarity.  Because I do. :lol

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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #73 on: April 03, 2014, 10:18:35 AM »
Now if you are like me, and know how to do it, but still go about it half-arsed, well enjoy the hilarity.  Because I do.

That just about sums it up for me  :aok
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Re: tank main gun shooting planes down.
« Reply #74 on: April 03, 2014, 10:40:07 AM »
I'd wager most the griefers getting nailed are deck lancs and A20's.....difficult to feel sympathy there
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