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Offline icepac

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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2014, 09:37:57 AM »
Very short film of my second ever sortie in a P38 in a duel after AKAK claimed I was avoiding dueling him.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,359248.msg4807993.html#msg4807993

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« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2014, 11:42:05 AM »
I was hoping you and or Ack would comment on the ammo load out.   I keep flip-flopping on the load-out.  Delirum supports the big load as well if I remember right.  I have used the extra MG on longer shots with a fair amount of success but I had kept wondering if in a tight fight that the extra 500 pounds might be the old straw that broke the camel's back.

The difference in weight between the two ammo loads is 372lbs. Considering the P38G, the lightest of the 3 we have in game still weighs in at 15,540lbs without external stores and 50% internal fuel, the weight contribution of that ammo is negligible.  If my math is right that ammo is only about 2.4% of the total weight of the aircraft.  For a duel I would take the lighter load just because one way or the other you're just not going to need the extra ammo, but in the MA I'd much rather have the extra trigger time.
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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2014, 12:24:08 PM »
Soulyss, I have no real argument to take the lighter load as I stated.  My only point is 75% of the time I don't need the extra ammo and that any lighter is always better even if it is a marginal advantage.  I will say when I took the short load and ran out of ammo, it sucked.

I sure would not call using the big load-out wrong.

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« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2014, 05:53:22 PM »
I always take the heavier loadout in duels because I can't count on my shooting........and the fact that I will sacrifice advantage to take a shot.

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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2014, 05:59:34 PM »
My only point is 75% of the time I don't need the extra ammo and that any lighter is always better even if it is a marginal advantage.  I will say when I took the short load and ran out of ammo, it sucked.

I agree that either taking the light or full ammo load is strictly a personal preference but do keep in mind that taking the lighter load does not carry over any advantages.  It's not going to make you suddenly turn tighter or maneuver better, though it will teach you fire discipline which I guess one could consider that advantageous.

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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2014, 02:53:55 AM »
Very short film of my second ever sortie in a P38 in a duel after AKAK claimed I was avoiding dueling him.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,359248.msg4807993.html#msg4807993


Rather looks like AKAK got a phone call halfway through or was otherwise distracted to me.

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« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2014, 04:18:46 AM »

Rather looks like AKAK got a phone call halfway through or was otherwise distracted to me.



I believe I just wasn't paying all that much attention during that fight then icepac mouthed off a little afterwards and he proceeded to lose the rest of our duels.

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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2014, 04:48:45 AM »
I believe I just wasn't paying all that much attention during that fight then icepac mouthed off a little afterwards and he proceeded to lose the rest of our duels.

Classy of him though to shoehorn in a film of him 'pwning' you. I smell desperation. Smells like, tragedy.

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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2014, 06:28:42 AM »
I took the G out for a spin last night.  I sure like the better forward view.

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« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2014, 04:28:08 PM »
Classy of him though to shoehorn in a film of him 'pwning' you. I smell desperation. Smells like, tragedy.



Guess you are commenting on something you did not read.

I included reference to being owned the next 3 times.

My second flight ever in a P38 of any type in a duel VS AKAK after he claimed I was avoiding him.

After this, I was worried it was too uber but I lost the next 3 so the P38 doesn't become one of the uber hangar queens I avoid flying like the la7 and N1k.

Still.....haven't flown it since.



Pretty classy of you not to check before you post.

Also remember.....that was my second flight in a P38 ever VS ackack's many thousands of sorties in that ride.

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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2014, 04:42:53 PM »
If you want to learn shot selection/trigger discipline...fly a yak for a bit.  Large ammo load on P38 was always nice and allowed for landing those double digit kill runs more often.

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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2014, 05:47:18 PM »
Classy of him though to shoehorn in a film of him 'pwning' you. I smell desperation. Smells like, tragedy.



Yep, even classier than the "You're not that good" comment he made, shortly before the 'pwning' commenced by me. 

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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2014, 11:16:11 PM »
Guess you are commenting on something you did not read.

I gathered sufficient information from these and your other posts to get a good impression of what you're all about.


Yep, even classier than the "You're not that good" comment he made, shortly before the 'pwning' commenced by me. 

You're privileged to receive his assessment Ack-Ack. I hope you make good use of his input. You could always print it out on very soft paper...


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Re: P-38 I'm hooked.
« Reply #58 on: May 03, 2014, 07:34:14 PM »
38J for the paint, 38L for the ailerons.

Lightning takes a bit of time to get used to.. ACM knowledge is a critical component to doing well in it, IMO.

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