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Offline lyric1

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P-63 King cobra & the French.
« on: April 29, 2014, 06:13:24 AM »
Is this correct?



Was under the impression they got them too late for WWII?

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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2014, 08:19:19 AM »
May not necessarily have been WW2 :old:
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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2014, 09:12:41 AM »
These saw combat with the Russians despite what others will say.
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2014, 09:44:11 AM »
I know, just saying maybe the French colours were post war :old:
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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2014, 10:23:18 AM »
Found this..

114 P-63Cs (not the 300 usually mentioned in the literature) were delivered to the French Armee de l'Air at the end of the war. However, the French Kingcobras were delivered too late to see any service in World War 2 in Europe.

Here.
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p63_17.html

Also according to this sight the French P-63s did see action in Southeast Asia in the late 40s early 50s.

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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 11:44:24 AM »
Found this..

114 P-63Cs (not the 300 usually mentioned in the literature) were delivered to the French Armee de l'Air at the end of the war. However, the French Kingcobras were delivered too late to see any service in World War 2 in Europe.

Here.
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p63_17.html

Also according to this sight the French P-63s did see action in Southeast Asia in the late 40s early 50s.

Thanks for that, thought I was correct :aok
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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2014, 11:50:40 AM »
Armee de l'air was a living WWII museum up until the 60's, as F4U-4's and other surplus airplanes lingered in service for a quite a while

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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2014, 12:36:21 PM »
These saw combat with the Russians despite what others will say.

Whether or not is saw combat with the Soviets in the Far East has never been in dispute, what is in dispute is whether or not the P-63 was ever credited with A2A kills as there is no official records other than 2nd hand accounts about any A2A kills.

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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2014, 12:40:32 PM »
May not necessarily have been WW2 :old:

The image came from this book.

http://avaxhome.cc/ebooks/history_military/0897470591.html

The image itself is tucked in amongst other WWII images.

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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2014, 02:24:01 PM »
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Also according to this sight the French P-63s did see action in Southeast Asia in the late 40s early 50s.

Very interesting sight that chronicles how air power was acquired and used by the French in their Post-WW2 efforts to maintain Empire.
http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v3/v3n1/frcoin.html
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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2014, 01:42:10 AM »
Very interesting sight that chronicles how air power was acquired and used by the French in their Post-WW2 efforts to maintain Empire.
http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v3/v3n1/frcoin.html

very cool read, this part of history is never presented this way at school, I wonder why  :noid

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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2014, 01:59:50 AM »
very cool read, this part of history is never presented this way at school, I wonder why  :noid

Something about history being written by the victors :noid
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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2014, 04:12:41 AM »
Something about history being written by the victors :noid

Nope. More like War Crimes. Even genocide. Anyway lets not drift. No Nation is without its sins and certainly America was more interested in helping the French check communism then they were in how they did it. Most of all after Korea. Older air power was used very effectively by the French in these low tech conflicts against enemies with no air power themselves, or very little.

I think the problem was there just wasnt enough of them. That and the French people were tired of foreign wars of Empire, and limited budgets of a country financially devastated after WW2 as so many in Europe were.

The A26 in particular shined for them as it did for us in S/E Asia. A very effective platform for sure and for sure the P-63 did a lot of work for them but i cant find much on its air to air operations.
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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2014, 04:26:28 AM »
Nope. More like War Crimes. Even genocide. Anyway lets not drift. No Nation is without its sins and certainly America was more interested in helping the French check communism then they were in how they did it. Most of all after Korea. Older air power was used very effectively by the French in these low tech conflicts against enemies with no air power themselves, or very little.

I think the problem was there just wasnt enough of them. That and the French people were tired of foreign wars of Empire, and limited budgets of a country financially devastated after WW2 as so many in Europe were.

The A26 in particular shined for them as it did for us in S/E Asia. A very effective platform for sure and for sure the P-63 did a lot of work for them but i cant find much on its air to air operations.

Rich, I think you are making my point from another angle
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Re: P-63 King cobra & the French.
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2014, 05:10:34 AM »
very cool read, this part of history is never presented this way at school, I wonder why  :noid

French had the guillotine in use in the Far East way past WWII. And the Brits for example had concentration camps in Kenia way after WWII.
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