New 2015 mustang looks like a aston martin wannabe

[CAP1]

130k stateside looks like. And for what looks like 5mph top speed difference I say hell yeah. I suspect the GT 500 won't deliver it's 200mph alleged track speed either, or beat the GT3's 3.3 0-60 speed.

 i almost missed this. ask and ye shall receive.

cobrajet. 0-60 in 1.1 seconds.

[APDrone]

Yeah, that was scarey. What year was that again? I forget, like '74 or something. Gawd that was awful. Then they had the stretched out front end years for the big block in the early '70s. Another awful design. 2014 was one of the better years. I dont know why they have to continue to mess with it.

1983.. I think it was the year before they hyped about 49% improvement in quality..

[CAP1]

1983.. I think it was the year before they hyped about 49% improvement in quality..

 79 to 85 were nearly identical under the skin, 'cept for some extra power. mid 85, ford used a throttle body setup on the gt350 if i recall, then went to a SEFI setup in 86. also in 86, they changed the mounting of the front lower control arms. they widened them about 2 inches, giving the car a much improved handling. the sefi 5 liters topped at 225hp i believe. they also moved to a better quality 5 speed in 86. before that the t5's tended to break rather easily. if they didn't, then the 7.5 rear diff did. they were pretty badass till about 92 or 93, when ford made them less powerful, and heavier.

 if you manage to find a fox body mustang, or even an sn95(which isn't much more than a modified fox) that hasn't been beaten on, then you've got a "new" classic, or an excellent platform for hotrodding.

 i should also add.....when i first saw the pics of the 015, i thought.....blech. it's been growing on me, and i owe much less on my black beauty than i could sell or trade her for........and there will be a test of an 015 in my future.

[skorpx1]

i almost missed this. ask and ye shall receive.

cobrajet. 0-60 in 1.1 seconds.

The factory Cobra Jet was running low 9's at about 150-155 on the drag strip as well.

Not a single GM or Chrysler car could ever compete with that, at least not right now.



Not to bring it off topic by too much, but Ken Block's rally Ford Focus RS does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds with a twin turbo'd 4 banger running on 100 octane fuel.

 i should also add.....when i first saw the pics of the 015, i thought.....blech. it's been growing on me, and i owe much less on my black beauty than i could sell or trade her for........and there will be a test of an 015 in my future.

I felt the same about the headlights, but now the more I see it the more I wish I want one.

[WEZEL]

Don't get all upset about the motor option.  Ford did this in '79 and '80 too.  History repeating itself maybe. 

Speaking from experience that worked on the 80's Ford crap, I have see a ton of the same design flaws and poor product planing  in the 2011 model year and up. With Ford history does repeat itself 

[WEZEL]

Fear not,  

The Mustang survived this:

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It can survive anything...

I had a 85  T-top pony, dumped all 1993 drive train and interior into it FOC you could work wonders with the warranty system back in the day  and drove that beats for 500k miles and more, had a nice cam, head work and a tremec trans, that puppy would cruise 130 all day long 

[CAP1]

The factory Cobra Jet was running low 9's at about 150-155 on the drag strip as well.

Not a single GM or Chrysler car could ever compete with that, at least not right now.



Not to bring it off topic by too much, but Ken Block's rally Ford Focus RS does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds with a twin turbo'd 4 banger running on 100 octane fuel.



I felt the same about the headlights, but now the more I see it the more I wish I want one.

 they've been reported in the 8.90's as delivered. tasca has one in the 7.90's, but they've done a lot of work to theirs. also, he was talking stock i think so i used a stock car. 

[olds442]

Fear not,  

The Mustang survived this:

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It can survive anything...

This is a very good point.

[CAP1]

it's a little off, but here's a split screen zl1 losing to the shelby at nurburg.

people thought i was nuts when i said the shelby could/would run there faster. they all thought that the irs in the zl would give it hands down advantage. and they'd have been right if there were no long straights. give that shelby a chance to stretch her legs, and she's gonna eat nearly anything in her class for lunch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWCnRWiqt8

[eagl]

I'm a little surprised by the vocal complaints about the return of the turbo 4 option.  The old fox body turbo 4 was either loved or despised depending on who you asked, but the fact is that the motor was fun to wind up and the reduced weight up front made it a nicer driving car in many ways.  I can't see a modern incarnation of that concept being so terrible to deserve the venom being aimed in its direction.  Certainly a peppy and responsive turbo would give a stripped down mustang a LOT more character than almost any warmed-over V6 base model.  Something to generate some buzz for sure, and as long as it isn't a mechanical disaster it ought to help sales.

[Rich46yo]

I had a 85  T-top pony, dumped all 1993 drive train and interior into it FOC you could work wonders with the warranty system back in the day  and drove that beats for 500k miles and more, had a nice cam, head work and a tremec trans, that puppy would cruise 130 all day long 

'85 was the last year of the Holley 4 barrel. I had a brand new GT in '85. It would run like hell tho nothing like todays modern engines.

I cant go into Ford dealerships. Im afraid I'll see a Pony car and do something stupid. My '66 was my favorite, my High School car. Gawd the girls loved it and I learned back seat Yoga in it.

[olds442]

it's a little off, but here's a split screen zl1 losing to the shelby at nurburg.

people thought i was nuts when i said the shelby could/would run there faster. they all thought that the irs in the zl would give it hands down advantage. and they'd have been right if there were no long straights. give that shelby a chance to stretch her legs, and she's gonna eat nearly anything in her class for lunch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWCnRWiqt8

lets talk about the z28 instead instead of the much slower zl1.

I wish chevy would bring back the chevelle back. The camaro was never meant to be a drag car, it was made for corners aswell. If you want a live rear axle drag monster, you got a 442 or chevelle.

Way I see it:

Corvette: 2 seat sports car/every day driver, fast in straight line and in corners.
Camaro: 4 seat track car, good handling in corners and still fast in straight line (Not so as much as a vett)
Chevelle: 4 seat drag car, GT500 muncher. Live rear axle.

If chevy did this they would get some sails.

[morfiend]

lets talk about the z28 instead instead of the much slower zl1.

I wish chevy would bring back the chevelle back. The camaro was never meant to be a drag car, it was made for corners aswell. If you want a live rear axle drag monster, you got a 442 or chevelle.

Way I see it:

Corvette: 2 seat sports car/every day driver, fast in straight line and in corners.
Camaro: 4 seat track car, good handling in corners and still fast in straight line (Not so as much as a vett)
Chevelle: 4 seat drag car, GT500 muncher. Live rear axle.

If chevy did this they would get some sails.

  I wonder what the percentage is of car "sales" are?   I would bet the "hotrod" market would be less than 1% of car sales and likely less than 20% of the model sales.

  I know when I built cars the hopped up V8's were 1 out of every 8 engines on a heavy day and usually closer to 1 in 12 on most days.  Of course this was some time ago but I cant imagine the market has changed all that much.

  Add in the price of fuel and the vast majority of cars built are the smaller gas sippers!

  So to say GM would get some "sails" from changing their model lineup is quite rediculous. There was a reason why GM dropped a couple of their long standing marques.........     Sales.....



   


 PS:  Looking forward to the new stang with the turbo 4,I might have to venture into my nearest ford dealer for a "test" drive.....     I drove many SVO stangs and turbo coupe Tbirds,they were fun rides back then!   I imagine with the tuners market the little 4 pot will be making some big numbers!

[olds442]

Sorry its hard to spell sales when its you just woke up. Forgive me great father for I have sinned.

[CAP1]

lets talk about the z28 instead instead of the much slower zl1.

I wish chevy would bring back the chevelle back. The camaro was never meant to be a drag car, it was made for corners aswell. If you want a live rear axle drag monster, you got a 442 or chevelle.

Way I see it:

Corvette: 2 seat sports car/every day driver, fast in straight line and in corners.
Camaro: 4 seat track car, good handling in corners and still fast in straight line (Not so as much as a vett)
Chevelle: 4 seat drag car, GT500 muncher. Live rear axle.

If chevy did this they would get some sails.

 tyhe z28 isn'tr in the picture. the shelby is direct competition the zl1. both of these cars can be had for less than $70k. the z28 is limited production. it's got NUTHIN. a/c is a $1100 option. single speaker radio. no power anything. carbon brakes(which i believe remove it from most street car classes). i think(i could be wrong)costs well over $70k. add to that that due to the limited production, they'll probably be fetching over $90k.

 that all said.....it is an AWESOME car. maybe we'll get lucky, and ford'll put something out there to beat that one too. actually......wonder how the fr500 compares to it.