Scoring

[Debrody]

By the way, what on earth makes you think that youre in "that ominose group of players"?  

Also, who cares if he shot head on too? Trying to prove that youre not a runaway kind of man with that head on? Even funnyer that youre that proud of it, had to replay 10 times, in slow motion  
Edit: otherwise looked like that was a pretty bad rope where the ki caught you - had no other option than to come straight into him, and see what happens.

So powerfool, would you teach me, master?  

[Skyyr]

Also, who cares if he shot head on too? Trying to prove that youre not a runaway kind of man with that head on? Even funnyer that youre that proud of it, had to replay 10 times, in slow motion  ROFL!
Edit: otherwise looked like that was a pretty bad rope where the ki caught you - had no other option than to come straight into him, and see what happens.

Ah, the red herring fallacy.

You see, it doesn't matter if it was head-on, sideways, or upside down. All that matters is that I posted proof of shooting someone who shot back, which you claimed was a blatant lie (and therefore, by extension, impossible). Trying to post a paragraph about how I killed someone is just an attempt to draw the attention away from the fact you got caught making a false statement. Nice try, but anyone with a high school education or higher can see through that failed attempt.

By the way, what on earth makes you think that youre in "that ominose group of players"?  

Good question - because you said so yourself (see the bolded, underlined part):

By the way i find it highly abusive that there is a group of players who only play for the K/D (ergo they never fight in an air combat game, avoiding any opponent who has the chance to shoot back), they come here, make a suggestion that score should only be determined by K/D

I see you're not only in the habit of contradicting yourself, but also in forgetting what you posted less than 24 hours earlier. Of course, we never suggested that score should be based on K/D (weighting is not K/D whatsoever - see here or check your local university for more in-depth knowledge), but let's not argue about that minor detail when there's so much more beneath the surface of your last two replies. lol.

[Debrody]

Still cannot see where i have mentioned that youre in that ominose group - otherwise youre right. There is a phrase where i do live though: if its not your suit, dont put it on. Quite funny how it fits this situation.

Technical University of Budapest, Energetics, heat engines class.
What do yuo think, what is behind the surface?

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See Rule #4

[LCADolby]

See Rule #4

[Triton28]

I will reserve judgement on this video until my boy Kruel does a full analysis of the raw AH film and transcribes every interaction between INK and Skyjr in the last 90 days.  

[LCADolby]

I will reserve judgement on this video until my boy Kruel does a full analysis of the raw AH film and transcribes every interaction between INK and Skyjr in the last 90 days.  

[Debrody]

Skyr... i belive your every single word, good sir... still... that poor lemming Dolby got you that badly, if you were really fighting as you claim, you couldnt maintain the K/D of 0.5... something is just not right...

 

"Dont even try to fool me, cuz' i can see right through you..." seen you flying, not once, not twice. All i have seen was really disappointing, to express myself mildly. Now youre trying to negate my statement with a video of hoing off an almost failed rope, well... After this, you calling me a blatant liar is beyond nonsense - its rather in the funny category.

just sayin'  

[Kruel]

I will reserve judgement on this video until my boy Kruel does a full analysis of the raw AH film and transcribes every interaction between INK and Skyjr in the last 90 days.  

Not needed, as Skyyr posted this video to display how INK complains about HOing yet, he was the one that initiated it, clearly shown in the video, it doesn't take much skill to HO and the purpose of the video wasn't to show that. I believe the purpose was to show hypocrisy, as the one with a "fighting spirit" he could have easily avoided the HO and rolled around on Skyyr blind folded.  

Your feeble attempts to troll the same point over and over only demonstrates your lack of maturity and open-mindedness, too bad your skill at trolling doesn't directly translate to your skill behind the stick, all you can really do is ride the coat tails of (fallacious) claims by Dolby, which I am sure he is going to hang on to for a very long time, it will keep him warm during the cold lonely nights...he will be sure to pull it out a year from now only to demonstrate his accomplishment!   "Remember when I did this guys! Man, those were the days!".

Yet for all your attempts at trolling, I still haven't seen you step up to the plate and challenge anyone to DA (much less Skyyr). I mean wouldn't you want a video of your own to show off! At least everyone will know that it wasn't friendly/training, and we will know that it will wind up on YouTube, right?  

Not sure why people keep derailing the topic at hand..we are talking about Scoring here...I am not saying my ideas are the best ideas..I only mean to bring up meaningful and constructive conversation in regards to how easily the scoring system can be "gamed". Its sad that its actually almost accepted "Those who will game the game will game it." Scoring is about objectivity, as a new player, the scoring system is a bit confusing and convoluted, if HTC wants attract (and keep) players, I think the Scoring system is one of those things that need to be clear, simple and objective.

So, does anyone have any better ideas? I am interested in reading if there is anyway to make the game better.

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Not needed, as Skyyr posted this video to display how INK complains about HOing yet, he was the one that initiated it, clearly shown in the video, it doesn't take much skill to HO and the purpose of the video wasn't to show that. I believe the purpose was to show hypocrisy, as the one with a "fighting spirit" he could have easily avoided the HO and rolled around on Skyyr blind folded.  

Your feeble attempts to troll the same point over and over only demonstrates your lack of maturity and open-mindedness, too bad your skill at trolling doesn't directly translate to your skill behind the stick, all you can really do is ride the coat tails of (fallacious) claims by Dolby, which I am sure he is going to hang on to for a very long time, it will keep him warm during the cold lonely nights...he will be sure to pull it out a year from now only to demonstrate his accomplishment!   "Remember when I did this guys! Man, those were the days!".

Yet for all your attempts at trolling, I still haven't seen you step up to the plate and challenge anyone to DA (much less Skyyr). I mean wouldn't you want a video of your own to show off! At least everyone will know that it wasn't friendly/training, and we will know that it will wind up on YouTube, right?  

Not sure why people keep derailing the topic at hand..we are talking about Scoring here...I am not saying my ideas are the best ideas..I only mean to bring up meaningful and constructive conversation in regards to how easily the scoring system can be "gamed". Its sad that its actually almost accepted "Those who will game the game will game it." Scoring is about objectivity, as a new player, the scoring system is a bit confusing and convoluted, if HTC wants attract (and keep) players, I think the Scoring system is one of those things that need to be clear, simple and objective.

So, does anyone have any better ideas? I am interested in reading if there is anyway to make the game better.

talk about hypocrisy using a small part of a much larger situation to try to prove something...

how about the whole MA fighting you guys outnumberd (a couple days before I ran into you in the DA)...and only you guys HOing and me avoiding....and it taking way longer then it should have to kill me....and even more...... I had killing shots on everyone of you...and only my poor aim allowed you guys to kill me.

we both know and Skyr knows the only reason I HOed was because I got sick of it from Him and your squad....THAT is the truth...spin it how ever you want.

I even said AFTER the HO...something along the Lines...."wow that was fun huh?"

and it was actually 2 times I HOed him that day both times I lost....

like I said before his HOing skills are TOP NOTCH



....except that one time YOU alone decided well instead of just hoing him I will go for position....

remember that?

huh???

how many was I fighting...3...4

did I HO any then?

we have actually had a few fights in the MA...how many of them have I HOed in????

ever see me run?


I have seen skyrr run many times.

you should really think about it.....


use that brain.....

[Triton28]

Not needed, as Skyyr posted this video to display how INK complains about HOing yet, he was the one that initiated it, clearly shown in the video, it doesn't take much skill to HO and the purpose of the video wasn't to show that. I believe the purpose was to show hypocrisy, as the one with a "fighting spirit" he could have easily avoided the HO and rolled around on Skyyr blind folded.  

The context in which this took place is most certainly needed,

If I pull you in the DA under the pretense of "ho training" or friendly discourse and say "try this" then shoot you down then post a video later to prove how much better I am, context is everything. Original AH films please.

I want to learn from this training experience.

Your feeble attempts to troll the same point over and over only demonstrates your lack of maturity and open-mindedness, too bad your skill at trolling doesn't directly translate to your skill behind the stick, all you can really do is ride the coat tails of (fallacious) claims by Dolby, which I am sure he is going to hang on to for a very long time, it will keep him warm during the cold lonely nights...he will be sure to pull it out a year from now only to demonstrate his accomplishment!   "Remember when I did this guys! Man, those were the days!".

Yet for all your attempts at trolling, I still haven't seen you step up to the plate and challenge anyone to DA (much less Skyyr). I mean wouldn't you want a video of your own to show off! At least everyone will know that it wasn't friendly/training, and we will know that it will wind up on YouTube, right?  

How can I be skilled at trolling, troll you and make you respond, but the attempt be feeble.  Cognitive dissonance I say!  

Also, are you challenging me to challenge someone to the DA?  Because that would be a weird thing to do.

Not sure why people keep derailing the topic at hand..we are talking about Scoring here...I am not saying my ideas are the best ideas..I only mean to bring up meaningful and constructive conversation in regards to how easily the scoring system can be "gamed". Its sad that its actually almost accepted "Those who will game the game will game it." Scoring is about objectivity, as a new player, the scoring system is a bit confusing and convoluted, if HTC wants attract (and keep) players, I think the Scoring system is one of those things that need to be clear, simple and objective.

Most people use their encounters in the game as a measure of their skill and improvement.  Using the scoring system as the most valid measure is just a recipe for getting all mad and stuff at the numbers for lying to you when someone hands you your arse in the DA.

So, does anyone have any better ideas? I am interested in reading if there is anyway to make the game better.

Yes.  Stop giving a damn about your score and focus on flying skillfully.  

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and for the record


anyone who knows me....10 years I have been flying in AH....


ever see me complain about dying?

or start watermelon on 200?

I most often <S> the guy and say nice shot or nice move...

until someone starts talking smack to me I live and let live....

[LCADolby]

I'll bring up that film every time Skyyr posts a stupid youtube film to emphasise a point he is trying to make.
I know INK enough in the sky to know that to get him to HO first you must first HO him.

Preferably I'd like to duel him (skyyr) again when the new graphics and terrain comes out, that give him time to think of the next set of excuses he is wanting his squadmates to make for him, as well as making it prettier viewing.

[Debrody]

Ladies and Gentlemen, please behold Kruel, the proud member of the "Skyyrcare Specialists"  

[Skyyr]

Now youre trying to negate my statement with a video of hoing off an almost failed rope, well... After this, you calling me a blatant liar is beyond nonsense - its rather in the funny category.

You didn't make the statement until AFTER I posted the video, so it's literally impossible for me to have defended myself by posting a video against a statement you made of the video itself. That's the third time you've contradicted yourself with your own posts in the last 24 hours.

Back on topic, you claimed that we have never engaged anyone who could shoot back. I posted evidence that not only is that false, but one of your own members met on equal grounds and attempted to HO. It was a virtually straight and level approach and they fired first (with incredibly poor marksmanship, as usual) and still managed to lose. This isn't about them, though - it's about you. You made a false claim and the video proved you wrong. End of story - you have no credibility.

Talk all you want - the fact of the matter is that one of your members initiated a HO, lost, and in the same sortie proved you to be lying.

By the way i find it highly abusive that there is a group of players who [avoid] any opponent who has the chance to shoot back

Maybe its only my blood, but i cant stand liars

Should I relink to the video of INK shooting first and losing? Or is it ok to universally acknowledge you got caught in a lie?