Replacement for the Brew

[FLOOB]

Ok.  597 for a minute in a dive is hard to believe as well due to how shallow the dive would need to be.  If the dive were steep it would hit the ground before the minute was done.

It is possible that there are bugs with the aircraft.  We have seen certain examples in the past (C-47s and A6M3s flying much faster than they ought to at very high altitudes, fixed by HTC when shown), but we need evidence to support that.  I know that at speeds below 500mph that the Brewster decelerates much faster than the Fw190D-9, indicating that it has significantly higher drag.  There may be a bug at higher speeds.  Film is really needed.

Inertia. The brewster decelerates very fast compared to other planes for the same reason that it sucks in a ballistic climb compared to other planes. Because it's very light.

[Randy1]

The interesting overall point of all of this is the perception, real or not of all the small airplanes performance in AH.  My WAG is the small planes drag model is in error in the way they assign a value to the drag coefficient or its equivalent constant AH uses to simulate drag.  Without wind tunnel test you have to do something.

My additional WAG is they use frontal area where data is not available to generate an equivalent drag coefficient.  It is the assumption that frontal area drag assignment works on these older planes with less attention paid to skin friction that may be misguiding small plane modeling.  In addition and maybe most proable is Cowling drag on radial engine planes may be much higher on these older models than anticipated .  Again my WAG and I have zero information to support this.

Here is a good explanation of drag.
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/drageq.html

[FLOOB]

yall dont fly it enough thats all there is to it.

Yep pretty much, if they flew it for awhile in the MA they'd realize the only things it does well is maneuvering, handling and going slow, catching on fire and getting the pilot wounded. Just like the plague of n1k2 whines twelve years ago. The whines of the n1k2 being a "ufo" were all from players witnessing somebody else in a n1k2 doing ufo things. I do wonder why it was the n1k2 and now the 239 that garner so much whining.

[NOT]

First of all, like I said, I climbed to over 20k and timed it to be around 50 secs or so. My E6B said I reached a top speed of 597 and held that for a minuet and only ripped apart due to my error of pulling out of the dive to hard at 2k

My film does NOT support that.......................Ai lerons shed well before that.

I fly the Brew quite a bit, I have NEVER been able to do the things people claim it can do.









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[Karnak]

Inertia. The brewster decelerates very fast compared to other planes for the same reason that it sucks in a ballistic climb compared to other planes. Because it's very light.

That isn't what coalcat and others claim.  They claim it has magic E retention and such.

[FLOOB]

That isn't what coalcat and others claim.  They claim it has magic E retention and such.

I've flown it a lot in MA, one of the things I noticed early on is that it handles well in a high speed dive, BUT you better make your shots count in the dive because as soon as you level out that bandit is going to rapidly shrink into a dot on the horizon. And like flying a zeke, don't chase anybody up a zoom climb unless you think you have a chance of shooting him before he get's out of gun range.

[Coalcat1]

Did I say it was a vert dive? It was at about 20 degrees after getting up to full speed in level flight

[R 105]

y'all don't fly it enough that's all there is to it.

How about a new You Tube video from you on the Brewster. It is about time for a new film from you anyway I always find them very entertaining.

[Karnak]

Did I say it was a vert dive? It was at about 20 degrees after getting up to full speed in level flight

You won't hit 597mph in a 20 degree dive.

[Coalcat1]

Skuzzy, I request that this thread be locked, it has gone too far.

[morfiend]

Skuzzy, I request that this thread be locked, it has gone too far.

  Why cry foul on the thread? First you make claims about the brew and now the thread,which is overmodeled,the thread or the brew?

  You made claims without proof,then when asked for film you used some excuse as to why you cant supply the film. Others come along with proof of testing and you say"I didnt say that I said this".

  The only way this thread has gone too far is in it's refute to your claims,I knew they were off base simply because you seem to be confussed about the differences in "E" and speed but thats another topic for another thread.



   

[NOT]

  Why cry foul on the thread? First you make claims about the brew and now the thread,which is overmodeled,the thread or the brew?

  You made claims without proof,then when asked for film you used some excuse as to why you cant supply the film. Others come along with proof of testing and you say"I didnt say that I said this".

  The only way this thread has gone too far is in it's refute to your claims,I knew they were off base simply because you seem to be confussed about the differences in "E" and speed but thats another topic for another thread.



   

 

[Coalcat1]

  Why cry foul on the thread? First you make claims about the brew and now the thread,which is overmodeled,the thread or the brew?

  You made claims without proof,then when asked for film you used some excuse as to why you cant supply the film. Others come along with proof of testing and you say"I didnt say that I said this".

  The only way this thread has gone too far is in it's refute to your claims,I knew they were off base simply because you seem to be confussed about the differences in "E" and speed but thats another topic for another thread.



   

Ok like I said, not much is about the brew anymore on this thread, that is why I am requesting that it be locked

[XxDaSTaRxx]

[darkzking]

Coalcat is not known for his brains in the squad but thats just the way we like him