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Offline Nypsy

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For you Tomcat lovers
« on: June 24, 2014, 06:17:55 AM »
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Offline tmetal

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 09:56:52 AM »
Nice video :aok I love the tomcat.

Some great video from inside the cockpit in this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTko5vhSOa4
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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 11:48:51 AM »
In the entire universe of aviation there are two types of airplanes. The F-14D and everything else...!

Thanks for the post
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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2014, 04:57:50 PM »
Quote from: mthrockmor on June 24, 2014, 11:48:51 AM
In the entire universe of aviation there are two types of airplanes. The F-14D and everything else...!

Thanks for the post

Yeah. Too bad everything else is still flying while gutted Tomcats are popping up as static displays at VFWs everywhere. There is something seriously wrong with this world.  :bhead

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 06:00:02 PM »
Why spoilers instead of ailerons on the Tomcat?  Also, they gutted the Tomcats so no Iranians could get their hands on spare parts.
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Offline Slash27

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2014, 12:45:04 PM »
Quote from: DaveBB on June 24, 2014, 06:00:02 PM
Why spoilers instead of ailerons on the Tomcat?  Also, they gutted the Tomcats so no Iranians could get their hands on spare parts.
Well, that's one story anyway. :D
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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2014, 01:29:25 PM »
Quote from: DaveBB on June 24, 2014, 06:00:02 PM
Why spoilers instead of ailerons on the Tomcat?  Also, they gutted the Tomcats so no Iranians could get their hands on spare parts.

They gutted them cause it cost a fortune to maintain less capability then an all F-18 navy.

Their time came ; Their time went.

The USN, like all services, have to answer to the budget axe now that the Cold War is over. The Tomcat was a great plane and it did give us a few advantages but it wasnt worth the cost of keeping them in the air.
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Offline Saxman

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2014, 02:51:52 PM »
Quote from: Rich46yo on June 27, 2014, 01:29:25 PM
They gutted them cause it cost a fortune to maintain less capability then an all F-18 navy.

Their time came ; Their time went.

The USN, like all services, have to answer to the budget axe now that the Cold War is over. The Tomcat was a great plane and it did give us a few advantages but it wasnt worth the cost of keeping them in the air.

Seems to me the Tomcat is the ideal platform for defending against projects like China's long-range anti-shipping missile.

And it's not than an all-F-18 Navy is more capable. That's entirely a matter of logistics.
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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2014, 03:33:08 PM »
I think the spoilers were chosen over ailerons in part because it was easier to engineer that way with the adjustable swept wings, in addition to the short approach and landing assistance spoilers can provide; but I might be wrong. In the picture, I can't tell if the outer control surfaces are ailerons or just flaps :headscratch:

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Offline DaveBB

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2014, 04:44:17 PM »
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Offline craz07

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2014, 05:20:10 PM »
daveybb, where do you get your info from..? looks like it has better angles than the f18
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Offline DaveBB

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2014, 06:12:12 PM »
Are you saying the F-14 is stealthy?
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Offline craz07

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2014, 06:14:20 PM »
read the line above davy.. read it again
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Offline craz07

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2014, 06:27:38 PM »
I think it is stupid how angles work, but they do
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Offline Halo46

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2014, 06:04:06 AM »
Quote from: tmetal on June 27, 2014, 03:33:08 PM
I think the spoilers were chosen over ailerons in part because it was easier to engineer that way with the adjustable swept wings, in addition to the short approach and landing assistance spoilers can provide; but I might be wrong. In the picture, I can't tell if the outer control surfaces are ailerons or just flaps :headscratch:



All flaps. It had no ailerons at all. It used stabilators, aka tailerons, which were assisted by the wing spoilers at slower speeds for roll.

Quote from: Rich46yo on June 27, 2014, 01:29:25 PM
They gutted them cause it cost a fortune to maintain less capability then an all F-18 navy.

Their time came ; Their time went.

The USN, like all services, have to answer to the budget axe now that the Cold War is over. The Tomcat was a great plane and it did give us a few advantages but it wasnt worth the cost of keeping them in the air.

Umm, no, they were much more capable at the mission they were developed for than hornets and I believe more versatile overall than most gave them credit for. But yes, they were expensive and like many things Congress screws with, had issues.

I will always miss seeing them in the air.

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