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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2014, 04:48:36 AM »
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2014, 04:50:28 AM »
If we lock this tread the terrorists win  :noid

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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2014, 07:38:52 AM »
It should be noted that those traveling to the HIV/AIDS conference were not part of the same organization.  Going to the same conference isn't the same as coming from the same company or university.  The reports I am seeing are saying 7-10 were on board, not 100.  Significant names in the field to be sure, but not 100 of them.

The reports vary...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/aids-conference-says-100-researchers-may-have-been-on-board-crashed-plane
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2014, 10:13:18 AM »
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2014, 10:57:03 AM »
The reports vary...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/aids-conference-says-100-researchers-may-have-been-on-board-crashed-plane

Note the word 'may'. So in worst case scenario if 100 people are travelling from europe to the conference and they all happen to be on the same plane...
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2014, 03:29:28 PM »
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2014, 06:19:02 PM »
A lot of airlines flew that route, for example 57 Lufthansa, 75 Singapore Airlines and 5 United Airlines flights passed over the area the last week before MH17. malaysian airlines where just one among the others. just bad luck for them it where that flight that where hit. A 777 from singapore Airlines where around 90 seconds behind when they got hit.

It is pretty easy to see where the missile came from, both sides has the capabillity to do that and it seems pretty clear that they where shot down by misstake by the rebels. Guess the lesson is that providing advanced weapons to the enemy of the enemy is a risky buissness the could bite u in the rear parts.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2014, 10:53:10 PM »
A Ranger Battalion vs all those Spetnaz regiments??? Thats just ridiculously outmatched...

...better make it a reinforced Ranger company

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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2014, 12:03:01 AM »
Oh yeah?!      :lol :aok


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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2014, 12:41:00 AM »
Even the US military would have a hard time engaging the Russian's in Ukraine. Reinforcements and logistics literally next door. Numerical superiority on the ground. And fighting defensively on territory they have complete tactical awareness of. Not to mention a hostile populace and a guaranteed nuclear escalation.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #70 on: July 20, 2014, 12:52:45 AM »
Note the word 'may'. So in worst case scenario if 100 people are travelling from europe to the conference and they all happen to be on the same plane...

in addition a lot of those people may have brought spouses, aids...  even there were 100 people going to that conference.  not all 100 will be researchers.



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« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2014, 01:19:20 AM »
I think it's bad taste to allow this thread to turn into a celebration of all things military. Please be a little respectful of those innocent people who have lost their lives. The mood among ordinary people is rather somber in this country this week.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/world/europe/the-netherlands-a-nation-in-mourning-but-mindful-of-ties-to-russia.html?_r=5&referrer

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« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2014, 10:32:45 AM »
I think it's bad taste to allow this thread to turn into a celebration of all things military.

It was a solution to the problem when no one else in the world will step up.  Get off your normal high horse.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2014, 11:48:44 AM »
It was a solution to the problem when no one else in the world will step up.  Get off your normal high horse.

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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2014, 12:46:31 PM »
It was a solution to the problem when no one else in the world will step up.  Get off your normal high horse.

what is the problem that we must send our guys to get killed.




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