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Offline zack1234

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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #75 on: July 20, 2014, 01:07:12 PM »
Quote from: USRanger on July 20, 2014, 10:32:45 AM
It was a solution to the problem when no one else in the world will step up.  Get off your normal high horse.

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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2014, 02:04:58 PM »
Quote from: zack1234 on July 20, 2014, 01:07:12 PM
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The American Empire. I admit it. And I'm darned proud that our nation has been so immensely successful.

Quote from: guncrasher on July 20, 2014, 12:46:31 PM
what is the problem that we must send our guys to get killed.




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The problem is that innocent people who are not even involved in the conflict are being killed.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #77 on: July 20, 2014, 05:09:15 PM »
I agree with USRanger.  Whats the point of having all these airborne forces if we never use them properly?  We spend a lot of time and money on keeping them.  The last time that they were truly used to their full potential was the 1980s invasion of Panama.

Drop them in, secure the wreckage, recover any U.S. citizens' remains, and get them back out.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #78 on: July 20, 2014, 06:07:00 PM »
sounds easy
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2014, 06:19:14 PM »
I agree. What's the point of having all these expensive nuclear weapons if we never use them? I say nuke East-Ukraine!  :rock

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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2014, 07:08:28 PM »
Quote from: Serenity on July 20, 2014, 02:04:58 PM


The problem is that innocent people who are not even involved in the conflict are being killed.

name one war where innocent people didnt die? as cold as it sounds we cant save the world.


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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2014, 07:15:50 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 20, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
I agree. What's the point of having all these expensive nuclear weapons if we never use them? I say nuke East-Ukraine!  :rock



Hey, remember when the U.S. invaded Pakistan in 2011, for about 3 hours, and killed Osama Bin Laden?  We could do the same thing to secure the wreckage.  Get in, collect everything, take photos, get out.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #82 on: July 20, 2014, 07:17:01 PM »
Quote from: DaveBB on July 20, 2014, 05:09:15 PM
I agree with USRanger.  Whats the point of having all these airborne forces if we never use them properly?  We spend a lot of time and money on keeping them.  The last time that they were truly used to their full potential was the 1980s invasion of Panama.

Drop them in, secure the wreckage, recover any U.S. citizens' remains, and get them back out.

The American Iranian hostage rescue mission was a big failure.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #83 on: July 20, 2014, 07:38:44 PM »
Quote from: DaveBB on July 20, 2014, 07:15:50 PM
Hey, remember when the U.S. invaded Pakistan in 2011, for about 3 hours, and killed Osama Bin Laden?  We could do the same thing to secure the wreckage.  Get in, collect everything, take photos, get out.

This would be a much higher-risk mission. In Pakistan DEVGRU raided a private home in a Islamabad suburb with a couple of armed civilians offering the only opposition. In East-Ukraine they'd be facing a trained militia and Russian mercs/foreign-fighters. Also in Pakistan there was only one body to extract, not more than 200.



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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2014, 07:39:34 PM »
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #85 on: July 20, 2014, 08:11:36 PM »
Quote from: MiloMorai on July 20, 2014, 07:17:01 PM
The American Iranian hostage rescue mission was a big failure.

Only because two aircraft collided in a sandstorm.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #86 on: July 20, 2014, 08:14:24 PM »
Quote from: DaveBB on July 20, 2014, 07:15:50 PM
Hey, remember when the U.S. invaded Pakistan in 2011, for about 3 hours, and killed Osama Bin Laden?  We could do the same thing to secure the wreckage.  Get in, collect everything, take photos, get out.
That would start World War 3.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #87 on: July 20, 2014, 08:15:27 PM »
WW3 is the war on terror.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #88 on: July 20, 2014, 08:19:35 PM »
Dude's got a scope on an ak74 lol.
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Re: Malaysian Air flight shot down over Ukraine with 295 aboard.
« Reply #89 on: July 20, 2014, 08:23:19 PM »
Quote from: FLOOB on July 20, 2014, 08:19:35 PM
Dude's got a scope on an ak74 lol.
nothing funny with that.   I think that that is a sign of how well equipped they are
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