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Offline bigsky

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stealing valor
« on: July 26, 2014, 09:57:25 AM »

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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2014, 10:04:30 AM »
Punching his lights out for the "I just got outta bed" hairdo and the tie would would be a good start since he obviously has no self respect.  Then start with the Command Wings (can't tell what kind) that he obviously hasn't been alive long enough to earn and work down from there.  Truly the lowest form of scum who thinks nothing of dishonoring those who volunteer and sacrifice.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2014, 10:13:35 AM »
The video circulating of the "SF/82nd Airborne/MP" being outed at a funeral by two Marines is a good one as well.   The lengths some go to.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2014, 10:41:00 AM »
I had no idea the US Air Force issued Expert Combat Infantry Badges. For that matter, they even had infantry units. Shocking! And a pilot that also earned his Airborne jump status. Did he earn those blood wings?

I hope homeboy got slapped around just a bit. Then charged by a Federal prosecutor, though he shouldn't go to jail. Having this trash on his permanent record should be good enough.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2014, 10:56:46 AM »
I had no idea the US Air Force issued Expert Combat Infantry Badges. For that matter, they even had infantry units. Shocking! And a pilot that also earned his Airborne jump status. Did he earn those blood wings?

I hope homeboy got slapped around just a bit. Then charged by a Federal prosecutor, though he shouldn't go to jail. Having this trash on his permanent record should be good enough.
It doesn't look like they are pilot wings, no "radiator" in the middle.  Years ago, the USAF started allowing pretty much anyone who rode on an aircraft to have wings of some sort.  The distinguishing type was indicated by the center section design.



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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2014, 11:03:57 AM »
I had no idea the US Air Force issued Expert Combat Infantry Badges. For that matter, they even had infantry units. Shocking! And a pilot that also earned his Airborne jump status. Did he earn those blood wings?

I hope homeboy got slapped around just a bit. Then charged by a Federal prosecutor, though he shouldn't go to jail. Having this trash on his permanent record should be good enough.

No such thing as an Expert CIB.  That is simply a third award of the CIB --- which this guy isn't close to old enough to have been awarded.

I went to jump school with an O-2 pilot so for whatever reason sometimes Air Force pilots do get jump wings.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2014, 11:07:59 AM »
I went to jump school with an O-2 pilot so for whatever reason sometimes Air Force pilots do get jump wings.
He might have been an ALO or going to be one.



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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2014, 11:25:03 AM »
or make it simple.....Ask him for the Silver Star citation.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2014, 11:27:35 AM »
The video circulating of the "SF/82nd Airborne/MP" being outed at a funeral by two Marines is a good one as well.   The lengths some go to.

A Navy Vet I work with just told me about that one yesterday.  :rolleyes:

This one upsets me even more. Purple Heart and Combat Infantry Badge pisses me off the most.
Dishonering the USAF uniform runs a very close second. What a starved for attention little dill hole. :mad:

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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2014, 12:25:17 PM »
No such thing as an Expert CIB.  That is simply a third award of the CIB --- which this guy isn't close to old enough to have been awarded.

I went to jump school with an O-2 pilot so for whatever reason sometimes Air Force pilots do get jump wings.

There are a select few "Joint" Airmen that earn jump wings.  They are regular AF (AD) selected to work with special forces.  When I worked for AIA, I worked with 2 such enlisted guys that had operational experience.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2014, 12:26:37 PM »
FTR - the idiot in the OP's post is from an old incident.  He was berated much.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2014, 12:39:14 PM »
What, no DFC. Must be one of those REMF.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2014, 01:46:46 PM »
Mark Berent, author of the Rolling Thunder series, x F4 pilot and a pile of other accomplishments had jump wings he earned while on some sort of exchange with the Special Forces in Germany in the mid 60's.  So, I know it IS possible for pilots, at least back then, to rate jump wings and wear them on an AF uniform, as he did.  This guy in the OP though - see the Purple heart x whatever - sure pal.  And a Presidential Unit Citation just squashed in the middle of a bunch of other ribbons...

edit - I googled it, and found this picture of Berent - jump wings at the bottom I believe, but I'm no expert for sure on American stuff.

His decorations include the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross with one oak leaf cluster, Bronze Star, Air Medal with twenty-four oak leaf clusters, Vietnam Cross of Gallantry, Cambodian Divisional Medal, and numerous Vietnam Campaign ribbons. He also earned US Special Forces and Cambodian jump wings






I just don't understand these guys.  Here in Canada for people who have NOT served, but had a parent/grandparent/etc serve and have passed on, they are allowed to wear their 2nd World War and Korean medals on a black suit jacket, on the opposite side of where it is properly worn, as a sign of respect, as well without wearing any head dress at all, to show that they aren't a vet themselves.  Nothing like what the OP tard is up to, but I have seen this done in Canada properly on rare occasion during Remembrance day or funerals.

I understand that in Australia and NZ this is common as well, on Remembrance day/vets day to wear ancestors medals on the right side, it even has an official term IIRC called "passing the Anzac torch" or something similar.



 Personally I have mixed feelings about this, I have both grandfathers WW2 and one set of Korean medals, and I'd never wear them, even on the right side on Vets/Rem day, but if some want to honor their family in this way, I suppose it's ok on just one day and if done in the proper accepted way.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2014, 02:09:54 PM »
In the OP's photo, ya almost HAVE to ask the guy if he is "Captain Obvious" and has additional ribbons and medals on his back.
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Re: stealing valor
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2014, 02:24:13 PM »
Where are his Star Fleet medals?  :old:
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