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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #345 on: October 17, 2014, 10:44:09 AM »
Yes, it's dependent on the strain of Ebola, there are 5 different strains of Ebola that have been identified over the years and each has it's own incubation period.  The current strain as identified as the source for the outbreak in West Africa and the United States and Spain are all the same strain and have an incubation period of between 1- 21 days.

14-21 days. There is no one day incubation period for Ebola.

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« Reply #346 on: October 17, 2014, 12:12:55 PM »
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« Reply #347 on: October 17, 2014, 12:23:34 PM »
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Alcohol, obesity, and tobacco problems are not centralized in the USA.  And in the end (God forbid), neither will be ebola.
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« Reply #348 on: October 17, 2014, 12:42:11 PM »
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You can lose weight, stop smoking and stop drinking.  less than 1% recover from ebola.  The US Government admits that currently on a daily basis 10 to 15 people from the infected countries of West Africa enter the US with no monitoring or follow up or tracking and have no idea where they are traveling to within the United States.  That's 300 a month, are they sick, most likely not, but who knows? why take the chance?
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« Reply #349 on: October 17, 2014, 12:59:20 PM »
You can lose weight, stop smoking and stop drinking.  less than 1% recover from ebola.  The US Government admits that currently on a daily basis 10 to 15 people from the infected countries of West Africa enter the US with no monitoring or follow up or tracking and have no idea where they are traveling to within the United States.  That's 300 a month, are they sick, most likely not, but who knows? why take the chance?

Where did you get the less than 1%? If the mortality rate is 60-70% it means 30-40% survive the infection.
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« Reply #350 on: October 17, 2014, 01:23:28 PM »
No kidding... certain people are saying this is a mini-problem. or that it's going out soon so don't even think about it..  ok so I wrestled with it for a bit and came to the conclusion that that there's a few too many cases far as me, myself, and I am concerned to just completely force it out of my consciousness..  It's already more than just a few lightning strikes.. I admit it I fear it.. and respect it, and hope we can do something about the future, thank you very much
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« Reply #351 on: October 17, 2014, 01:38:57 PM »
No kidding... certain people are saying this is a mini-problem. or that it's going out soon so don't even think about it..  ok so I wrestled with it for a bit and came to the conclusion that that there's a few too many cases far as me, myself, and I am concerned to just completely force it out of my consciousness..  It's already more than just a few lightning strikes.. I admit it I fear it.. and respect it, and hope we can do something about the future, thank you very much

People have a very real reason to fear it, especially with the government taking little to no precautions to stop it. The incubation time is so long and probability of infection on contact so high that the infection can go from patient zero to tens of thousands before anything gets detected. If the epidemic breaks out hospitals will probably just stop admitting patients or be forced to shut down all of its operation. Patients will be told to remain curfewed at home at penalty of death until symptoms are gone.

There has never been a better time to be a survivalist. Only total isolation is safe if ebola spreads to a major city - they're totally insane taking patients anywhere near high population areas. Even if the patient is in containment in an ambulance, all it takes is a car crash and the jack is out of the box.
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« Reply #352 on: October 17, 2014, 01:43:16 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-norman/im-a-hazmat-trained-hospi_b_5998486.html

That's the problem. Thing is you can only catch it by contact with body fluids, and it can be contained, but health care workers in this country haven't been trained to deal with it. Dallas wasn't, and that's why their nurses got sick.


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« Reply #353 on: October 17, 2014, 01:48:01 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-norman/im-a-hazmat-trained-hospi_b_5998486.html

That's the problem. Thing is you can only catch it by contact with body fluids, and it can be contained, but health care workers in this country haven't been trained to deal with it. Dallas wasn't, and that's why their nurses got sick.

I am not sure I believe the virus can only be contracted by "contact with bodily fluids".  At this point, that is a guess.
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« Reply #354 on: October 17, 2014, 01:56:02 PM »
Where did you get the less than 1%? If the mortality rate is 60-70% it means 30-40% survive the infection.
 The math doesn't prove it out, look at the numbers in West Africa, of identified populations , not estimates, but actual populations in treatment. 100 in a community went in, only 1 came out.  Actual numbers, not the BS The World Health Organization (WHO) would like you to believe, but they are not counting just people identified with and test positive with Ebola, they count misdiagnosed cases that later test to be negative as cured.  Its easy to cure someone of a deadly illness when they never had it in the first place.  They go into a village or town and treat the ill and those that never had the illness are counted as cured along with those that survive.  
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #355 on: October 17, 2014, 02:19:54 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-norman/im-a-hazmat-trained-hospi_b_5998486.html

That's the problem. Thing is you can only catch it by contact with body fluids, and it can be contained, but health care workers in this country haven't been trained to deal with it. Dallas wasn't, and that's why their nurses got sick.

It's enough for a sweaty person to touch a guard rail and you touch it after him/her inside 2 hours timeframe. Imagine a patient walking through a busy subway station..

Also one sneeze sprays aerosol microparticles that can remain airborne in still air for 4 hours, more if there's airflow. Scary stuff.
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« Reply #356 on: October 17, 2014, 02:40:26 PM »
Hmmm. Thing is, there was a case in Lagos, a teeming mass of humanity if ever there was one. It doesn't seem to have spread. Same in Senegal.
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« Reply #357 on: October 17, 2014, 02:44:25 PM »
Hmmm. Thing is, there was a case in Lagos, a teeming mass of humanity if ever there was one. It doesn't seem to have spread. Same in Senegal.

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« Reply #358 on: October 17, 2014, 02:52:03 PM »
Germany has a few cases of ebola with the first death just this past week.  No nation is safe.  Having said that, only 4 cases in a country such as Germany is not exactly an outbreak
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« Reply #359 on: October 17, 2014, 02:56:37 PM »
Germany has a few cases of ebola with the first death just this past week.  No nation is safe.  Having said that, only 4 cases in a country such as Germany is not exactly an outbreak

It's very foolish to downplay the threat. This is can be worse than the Spanish flu that killed millions in the past. 4 known cases now may grow exponentially if even one patient gets viral and is undetected.
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