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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #90 on: September 30, 2014, 07:26:44 PM »
I don't think it's airborne yet, or we'd be seeing huge upswings in infections and death that would be impossible to miss (or, for those with suspicious minds, to cover up).

The fear, though, is that -- because mutation to airborne transmissibility can happen (and in fact has happened for strains that infect pigs and monkeys) -- it will happen.  Then the world is in big, big trouble.
interesting video uploaded yesterday on YouTube;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VR0Mz4lys



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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #91 on: September 30, 2014, 07:36:59 PM »
What's be postulated in this thread is spread via artificial means.

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #92 on: September 30, 2014, 09:15:16 PM »
I don't think it's airborne yet, or we'd be seeing huge upswings in infections and death that would be impossible to miss (or, for those with suspicious minds, to cover up).

The fear, though, is that -- because mutation to airborne transmissibility can happen (and in fact has happened for strains that infect pigs and monkeys) -- it will happen.  Then the world is in big, big trouble.
Airborne is a technical term. The Flu isn't airborne either.
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #93 on: September 30, 2014, 09:18:24 PM »

Plague was also  reported last week in Arizona, Flagstaff; they tested fleas after massive prairie dogs die off; this video warns people  walking dogs/cats outdoors; the disease can go fr9m fleas to pets and humans; 

 "Fleas test positive for plague at Doney Park near Flagstaff;"

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northern-az/flagstaff/official-fleas-test-positive-for-plague-at-doney-park-near-flagstaff

plague; killed 1/3 of Europe population and 1/2 of China's population few centuries ago;
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_(disease)



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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #94 on: September 30, 2014, 09:18:48 PM »
Airborne is a technical term. The Flu isn't airborne either.



Actually, it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza

Influenza can be spread in three main ways:[71][72] by direct transmission (when an infected person sneezes mucus directly into the eyes, nose or mouth of another person); the airborne route (when someone inhales the aerosols produced by an infected person coughing, sneezing or spitting) and through hand-to-eye, hand-to-nose, or hand-to-mouth transmission, either from contaminated surfaces or from direct personal contact such as a hand-shake. The relative importance of these three modes of transmission is unclear, and they may all contribute to the spread of the virus.[4][73] In the airborne route, the droplets that are small enough for people to inhale are 0.5 to 5 µm in diameter and inhaling just one droplet might be enough to cause an infection.[71] Although a single sneeze releases up to 40,000 droplets,[74] most of these droplets are quite large and will quickly settle out of the air.[71] How long influenza survives in airborne droplets seems to be influenced by the levels of humidity and UV radiation, with low humidity and a lack of sunlight in winter aiding its survival.[71]

As the influenza virus can persist outside of the body, it can also be transmitted by contaminated surfaces such as banknotes,[75] doorknobs, light switches and other household items.[2] The length of time the virus will persist on a surface varies, with the virus surviving for one to two days on hard, non-porous surfaces such as plastic or metal, for about fifteen minutes from dry paper tissues, and only five minutes on skin.[76] However, if the virus is present in mucus, this can protect it for longer periods (up to 17 days on banknotes).[71][75] Avian influenza viruses can survive indefinitely when frozen.[77] They are inactivated by heating to 56 °C (133 °F) for a minimum of 60 minutes, as well as by acids (at pH <2).[77]

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #95 on: September 30, 2014, 10:04:32 PM »
  Two Doctors who should know the precautions in treating an infectious disease were infected.
  There is a real risk here.      You can hope they will take better precautions when they arrive in the US.

    

    

This:


Is not the same as this.


Knowing what precautions to take vs having the equipment and the ability to take them are not one and the same.

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #96 on: September 30, 2014, 10:46:22 PM »

Actually, it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza

Influenza can be spread in three main ways:[71][72] by direct transmission (when an infected person sneezes mucus directly into the eyes, nose or mouth of another person); the airborne route (when someone inhales the aerosols produced by an infected person coughing, sneezing or spitting) and through hand-to-eye, hand-to-nose, or hand-to-mouth transmission, either from contaminated surfaces or from direct personal contact such as a hand-shake. The relative importance of these three modes of transmission is unclear, and they may all contribute to the spread of the virus.[4][73] In the airborne route, the droplets that are small enough for people to inhale are 0.5 to 5 µm in diameter and inhaling just one droplet might be enough to cause an infection.[71] Although a single sneeze releases up to 40,000 droplets,[74] most of these droplets are quite large and will quickly settle out of the air.[71] How long influenza survives in airborne droplets seems to be influenced by the levels of humidity and UV radiation, with low humidity and a lack of sunlight in winter aiding its survival.[71]

As the influenza virus can persist outside of the body, it can also be transmitted by contaminated surfaces such as banknotes,[75] doorknobs, light switches and other household items.[2] The length of time the virus will persist on a surface varies, with the virus surviving for one to two days on hard, non-porous surfaces such as plastic or metal, for about fifteen minutes from dry paper tissues, and only five minutes on skin.[76] However, if the virus is present in mucus, this can protect it for longer periods (up to 17 days on banknotes).[71][75] Avian influenza viruses can survive indefinitely when frozen.[77] They are inactivated by heating to 56 °C (133 °F) for a minimum of 60 minutes, as well as by acids (at pH <2).[77]
Thanks for illustrating my point that airborne is a technical term. The influenza virus is in the droplet transmission category, not the airborne transmission category.

http://www.cdc.gov/HAI/settings/outpatient/basic-infection-control-prevention-plan-2011/transmission-based-precautions.html
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #97 on: September 30, 2014, 10:47:24 PM »
Keep panicking!@!!!!! OH NOES!!!!!!
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #98 on: September 30, 2014, 11:19:07 PM »
Plague was also  reported last week in Arizona, Flagstaff; they tested fleas after massive prairie dogs die off; this video warns people  walking dogs/cats outdoors; the disease can go fr9m fleas to pets and humans;  

 "Fleas test positive for plague at Doney Park near Flagstaff;"

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northern-az/flagstaff/official-fleas-test-positive-for-plague-at-doney-park-near-flagstaff

plague; killed 1/3 of Europe population and 1/2 of China's population few centuries ago;
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_(disease)

They've been discovering plague in wildlife of north america about once every couple of years for as long as I can remember. In modern times it's not that dangerous. Influenza and small pox each have killed more people than the plague. Also there is a vaccine for plague.

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #99 on: September 30, 2014, 11:21:40 PM »
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #100 on: September 30, 2014, 11:26:47 PM »
aww man I thought the first link was this

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/influenza/

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #102 on: October 01, 2014, 12:53:47 AM »
Keep panicking!@!!!!! OH NOES!!!!!!

Panicking is not the same as thinking it is foolish to allow unrestricted travel from epidemic areas to the US.

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #103 on: October 01, 2014, 02:29:27 AM »
Ebola in the US is a red flag that it is now in other countries/continents.

How would South/Central America far with ebola? Imagine if it gets to the Middle East, India, SE Asia and so on.

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #104 on: October 01, 2014, 02:32:27 AM »
Whittle who invented the jet is to blame

These people have been dying from this disease for century's and it never affected anyone else.

They will not change their ways and refuse to listen to medical advice

And the usual foil hat crowd say its the CIA

Ebola will not catch on in the US because you don't have the monkeys that the disease is located,  McDonalds is not affected by the ebola virus
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