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Offline Rob52240

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Do you experts think that this will run the game smoothly with the new graphics engine?  I want to make sure it isn't lacking something before I order it.

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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2014, 01:11:46 PM »
Not too bad at all. There's two things that I'd change, though. The first and most important is the power supply. Instead of the no brand "standard" 800 W one I'd choose NZXT HALE82 V2 700W ATX 80 PLUS BRONZE for only $24 more. That one seems to be manufactured by Seasonic, who have the best reputation at the moment. The other thing is a little more a matter of trusting new technology: Instead of a SSD/HDD combo I think separate disks would be a safer bet in case of a failure, enabling to change only the defect component. Oh yes, you could choose a faster video card or processor, but those would badly break your budget. Oh, and I dislike doors in computer cases. They look "elegant" as the marketing jargon says, but I'd rather take something that breathes through a large grille the size of the entire front panel like Cooler Master HAF912 (+7) or CyberPowerPC X-Titan 100 (-5) or X-Titan 200 (+3)
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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2014, 02:27:15 PM »
what bizman said.  or you could build a nicer one yourself for about the same amount of money with better components including a faster vc.  the standard is a crappy one, dont be fooled by the 7.


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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2014, 11:35:18 PM »
Thanks guys.

So semp, are you suggesting a different processor?  The power supply suggestion makes perfect sense, and I already do the same on motherboards by always buying Asus.
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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2014, 11:38:39 PM »
cpu is great it's the video card that is crappie.



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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2014, 02:38:11 AM »
Not sure you need that much processor, actually. I chose an i7 because I do a lot of video processing, but it is not at all clear that it would be needed for the next update of AH.
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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2014, 05:07:30 AM »
what semp said, better video-card
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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2014, 01:04:31 PM »
Not sure you need that much processor, actually. I chose an i7 because I do a lot of video processing, but it is not at all clear that it would be needed for the next update of AH.

Agreed.  I use a late-model i5 myself and have no issues.  Agree the video card isn't great.  Save some money going with a i5 processor and get a better video card.
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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2014, 06:29:07 PM »
rob, I really would encourage you to build your own computer.  it isnt too complicated and for the amount of money you are spending you can go from ok components to way better components and you will learn a thing or two about computers. 

watch a couple of videos on youtube.  it's pretty easy.


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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2014, 03:51:58 AM »
Just reminding that the X79 chipset motherboards only support LGA 2011 which only supports i7 processors. The 4820K isn't actually much more expensive than a high end i5 like 4790K or i5-680, but the LGA 2011 motherboards cost three times as much as a LGA 1150 motherboard comparing the cheapest ones. Rob, look at www.pcpartpicker.com and build some compilations based on different chipsets with similar speed specifications to find the best bang for the buck. Just out of curiosity I compiled an LGA 1150 based rig otherwise similar to what you suggested and ended up to $1023, including the Fatal1ty headset and keyboard and mouse of the same price level.
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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2014, 11:06:44 PM »
From experience with 3 2011 x79 systems, 3820, 3930k and 4930k - the 3570k, 4570k, 4770 CPUs and their respective socket MB's perform nearly as well, and are far less expensive and perform in a better $/fps ratio than the x79, so long as editing huge video files and stuff like that isn't your primary use.

Another thing to consider OP is that the new x99 intel chipset as well as new Nvidia and AMD video cards are coming out in a few months or maybe even sooner, and along with them typically comes a corresponding drop in the current cards that are available.  So, the 7" series should drop quite a bit once the 8" series get here.  The socket 2011 will have a "new" socket 2011"x" that the new 5 series 8 cores will fit into, so again, a corresponding drop MAY happen with the stuff available right now.   The very best thing you can do is wait a couple/few months and see.  Price drops may or may not happen.  I know the 3930k and the 3820 I bought in December of 2012 still are the same price as they were when I got them on sale, but many other chipsets and motherboards dropped significantly.  Keep your eye on the really decent $/performance ratio chips like the 4670k as well as the x79 and stuff like that, as well as the 7 series Nvidia cards.  IMO in a few months you'll very likely be able to build a faster, yet cheaper, system than you linked in the OP, something that will also likely run the new version of AH better and for a longer period of time.

Again, just take a breath and wait a little bit, as now isn't the best time to buy due to all the new stuff coming shortly. 

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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2014, 12:17:53 AM »
I'll be sure to get a better video card.
What would you suggest for a video card?

Semp, I've considered building it myself but I've bought 8 from this company so far since 2001 and have no complaints.  I also like having a warranty.
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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2014, 08:05:03 PM »
I'll be sure to get a better video card.
What would you suggest for a video card?

Semp, I've considered building it myself but I've bought 8 from this company so far since 2001 and have no complaints.  I also like having a warranty.


all the parts have a warranty.   The card that you need is a 760 or 770.  For 400 less you can build it yourself with all better components.


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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2014, 02:34:48 AM »
Rob, I can understand that loyalty, I too deal with a company that is medium/large here in Western Canada that has built me around the same number of machines, maybe a few more, since around that same time frame, 2000/2001.  They've always treated me right, so I stick with them.  I could easily assemble the components and install all the first time software stuff, but they do that for me free of charge since I've been there so long (it costs 50$ which IMO is cheap considering they instantly switch out any faulty stuff on site, and spend the hours installing stuff, and then let it sit for a day or two going through some tests to make sure it's all working). 

Again, if you can wait a short time, that 760 or 770 card will probably be a fair bit cheaper when the 8 series come out.  They are already out in the gaming laptops.  Same with the x79/x99 socket 2011 stuff - again, it may not drop, a 3820 is still much the same price as nearly 2 years ago, but it may come down now that the new socket x99 stuff if otw in a short time.

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Re: How well should this rig run Aces High for the forseable future?
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2014, 03:06:56 AM »
I believe that since the user base and price point will be so different that in this case the prices will not vary much.
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