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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: Book recomendation
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2016, 12:56:02 PM »
Oh to be a USN fleet boat skipper in '44. Talk about a shooting gallery. We basically sunk almost all the Japanese merchant fleet in one year along with a goodly amount of its combat fleet.

And once again when you look at their hull production capabilities, their extreme need of ultra long lines of sea supply and communications, their utter lack of imagination in submarine defense, and once again Im left asking, "what in heck were they thinking attacking America and Britain"?
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Re: Book recomendation
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2016, 01:34:05 PM »
Kamikaze attacks started in 1944, though.

Kamikaze attacks sank 34 US ships and damaged (many significantly damaged and knocked out of the war) 368 others, killed 4900 sailors and wounded another 4800.

Here is the list of just US fleet carriers that were hit by kamikazes in 1944 and 1945:

Bunker Hill
Enterprise
Essex
Franklin
Hancock
Intrepid
Lexington
Randolph
Saratoga

Also British fleet carriers:

HMS Formidable
HMS Indefatigable
HMS Indomitable

The list of just escort and light carriers hit by kamikazes:

Bismark Sea
Kadashan Bay
Kalinin Bay
Kitkun Bay
Laguna Point
Manila Bay
Marcus Island
Natoma Bay
Ommaney Bay
Salamaua
Sangamon
Santee
Savo Island
St. Lo
Suwannee
Wake Island
White Plains
Belleau Wood
Cabot
San Jacinto

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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2016, 05:02:03 PM »
and once again Im left asking, "what in heck were they thinking attacking America and Britain"?

The Japanese honestly believed that there would be no general war and the "conflict" would last no more than 6 months before the US sued for a cease-fire and peace negotiations.
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2016, 05:10:00 PM »
The Japanese honestly believed that there would be no general war and the "conflict" would last no more than 6 months before the US sued for a cease-fire and peace negotiations.

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Re: Book recomendation
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2016, 05:50:58 PM »
It might have gone differently if the Japanese had bombed the fuel storage at Pearl.  That was the supply for the whole Pacific fleet.

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2016, 06:50:18 PM »
Even the Kamikaze losses, painful as they were, only amounted to 47 ships lost and only 3 or 4 escort carriers included. By the end of the war the USN alone was operating almost 7,000 ships of which 28 were fleet carriers, 71 escort CVs, 23 BBs, 72 cruisers, over 200 submarines, almost 400 DDs, and thousands of amphib and support ships. The Brits as well ended up sending almost 20 carriers of different types to the Pacific by the end of the war.

Ive always wondered what a 3rd wave at PH would have accomplished in the long run. Again strange that fuel, support, and submarine targets were placed so Low on the list of priorities with a Navy supposedly at the cutting edge of modern tactics. Midway, perhaps Hawaii itself, would have been put at great risk. Time and again the IJN was pulled by opposing forces and overall they simply were never aggressive or imaginative enough.

I think there were only very few submarines at PH at the time, 3 or 4. Werent most forward deployed to the Phillipines and Australia?
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