WHHHAAAAAH!!!

[Tumor]

Never EVER publicly use what you used as the title of this thread... unless your 12 or less.  Then it's ok. 

[Ack-Ack]

From what I've read in old posts this actually worked in an early version of Aces High.
Now the only advantage to trimming up is keeping a scaled stick closer to center for finer input.

If it did, it was in beta before I really started to play AH.  I know it was a common thing to do in IL2, it worked in that game.

ack-ack

[Zerstorer]

Wait, what?  You mean being a better cartoon pilot will net you 40mph faster on a deck merge?

Someone is getting kicked from the muppets as soon as i figure who didn't tell me about this..

So, to be clear, you are not just implying that cheating occurred... you are flat out stating it, yes?

[Zerstorer]

If it did, it was in beta before I really started to play AH.  I know it was a common thing to do in IL2, it worked in that game.

ack-ack

yes it did. torque was also not modeled as strong in IL2..... at least it wasn't in the early patches... I know things have changed with the later 4.1x patches (ie post-IL2 1946).

Never EVER publicly use what you used as the title of this thread... unless your 12 or less.  Then it's ok.  

OH I completely agree.... but it served its purpose.... just not the ones you think.  

[waystin2]

Chopping throttle and using some slip will be just as effective in shedding E to force the over shoot, more effective than shutting down the engine and then turning it back on.  It is also a desperation move.

 Like I said, it's just another myth that only really works in the eye of the beholder.

ack-ack

QFT.  My Mk. VIII loves those that willingly shut off their own engine.

[Zerstorer]

I'm just awaiting the explanation on cartoon plane skills and NOT "less flattering conclusions" net 40mph faster on a deck merge.. lmao

Please directly state what you are implying, Kappa.

[Vraciu]

You " -The Damned- " guys need to quit pulling my squaddies INto your purse fights with the enemy (everyone that's not us) I almost feel left out    /sarc off

I love watching this though...the dogfighter in me wishes I could play more...but alas...FSO and a hour or two on the weekends is all I have time for...hurts my soul....

See y'all " -The Damned- " guys frame 1  ...also I was never let on to why the ( - ) I'm feeling left out again...

Ask Dodger.

[Vraciu]

Chopping throttle and using some slip will be just as effective in shedding E to force the over shoot, more effective than shutting down the engine and then turning it back on.  It is also a desperation move.

When AH first came out and until it was fixed (around 2001 or so) it was used a lot because there was no penalty to doing it but that was ceased to be when the engine start up was changed to stop such gamey tactics.  Like I said, it's just another myth that only really works in the eye of the beholder.

ack-ack

It isn't about E-shedding.  It is about elimination of torque for a rope.

[Ack-Ack]

It isn't about E-shedding.  It is about elimination of torque for a rope.

If that's his reason, decreasing throttle achieves the same thing without the penalty of the 1-2 second engine start up delay.  Quite frankly, IMO it's rather stupid to turn off your engine if you're trying to rope someone.

ack-ack

[Someguy63]

If that's his reason, decreasing throttle achieves the same thing without the penalty of the 1-2 second engine start up delay.  Quite frankly, IMO it's rather stupid to turn off your engine if you're trying to rope someone.

ack-ack

According to him he uses it to do a hammerhead easily cause there's virtually no torque, and that doing an actual hammerhead in AH is impossible with the torque modeling here while the engine is on.

[Zerstorer]

ki43's wep is only 1 additional 3 legged not very interested lethargic hamster.. ;p

 



Why all the dancing around?   

[DmonSlyr]

It isn't about E-shedding.  It is about elimination of torque for a rope.

I agree almost verbatem with what AKAK stated about this.

This one time at band camp. I tried calibrating throttle so a tiny push back would kill all throttle but not the engine. Ohh yeahh, that didn't work either.

[Vraciu]

According to him he uses it to do a hammerhead easily cause there's virtually no torque, and that doing an actual hammerhead in AH is impossible with the torque modeling here while the engine is on.

^^^^^^^^

[Vraciu]

I agree almost verbatem with what AKAK stated about this.

This one time at band camp. I tried calibrating throttle so a tiny push back would kill all throttle but not the engine. Ohh yeahh, that didn't work either.

Don't shoot the messenger.   I am merely stating the theory and how it is used by the principal being discussed.   He thinks it works.   I see no hard data either way.

[Vraciu]

If that's his reason, decreasing throttle achieves the same thing without the penalty of the 1-2 second engine start up delay.  Quite frankly, IMO it's rather stupid to turn off your engine if you're trying to rope someone.

ack-ack

An idle engine still produces torque and thrust.

I have seen no proof of the efficacy or lack thereof in regard to shutting off the engine in the vertical to facilitate a hammerhead.  If he thinks it works, so be it.   I have no dog in this fight.


That said, a startup penalty is gamey in and of itself.   With a windmilling prop reintroduction of fuel/spark results in an immediate relight in every recip I have ever flown.