Let's talk Drones

[XxDaSTaRxx]

With new drones rolling out it seems by the week for new and more complex tasks and purposes, it's been a common topic around 'hese parts talking about drones replacing pilots.


I figured we could all discuss our stances on them...

Here's my 2¢

Reconnaissance: Absolutely

Air to Ground Attack: Neutral on this point

Air to Air Combat: Never

[jolly22]

Beer Delivery service: YES PLEASE

[Rich46yo]

Air to Ground Attack: Neutral on this point

Air to Air Combat: Never

Why? Does it strike you as unsporting that we dont put your neighbors kid at risk of being blown to pieces? Maybe captured, tortured, and beheaded?

I for one dont care how we kill the enemy as long as they end up dead. There's nothing more pathetic then when we give a bunch of civilians a vote in the rules of engagement in a war they, or their kids, aren't fighting.

Ive talked to these troops coming back from I-crap and I-crapistan. They are just disgusted with these ROE's the couch warriors are forcing upon them.

[caldera]

The bad guys don't follow any rules and neither should we.  The more terrible you make war, the sooner it will be over.

[XxDaSTaRxx]

Why? Does it strike you as unsporting that we dont put your neighbors kid at risk of being blown to pieces? Maybe captured, tortured, and beheaded?

I for one dont care how we kill the enemy as long as they end up dead. There's nothing more pathetic then when we give a bunch of civilians a vote in the rules of engagement in a war they, or their kids, aren't fighting.

Ive talked to these troops coming back from I-crap and I-crapistan. They are just disgusted with these ROE's the couch warriors are forcing upon them.

Kill the enemy.... but do not hate them (unless it's ISIS, hating is open there)

[ghi]

Kobane Syria today , cool photos on Dailymail, what a fireworks party, drones are too small for big jobs like this;

Love this photo:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2798266/raining-fire-isis-amazing-picture-captures-moment-u-s-bomb-lands-heart-kobani-kurdish-leader-warns-airstrikes-not-defeat-jihadists.html

[Skyyr]

The bad guys don't follow any rules and neither should we.  The more terrible you make war, the sooner it will be over.

I'm pretty sure that's what the Nazis said...

[bozon]

Kobane Syria today , cool photos on Dailymail, what a fireworks party, drones are too small for big jobs like this;

Love this photo:

(Image removed from quote.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2798266/raining-fire-isis-amazing-picture-captures-moment-u-s-bomb-lands-heart-kobani-kurdish-leader-warns-airstrikes-not-defeat-jihadists.html

This is an outrage! indiscriminate bombing in civilian areas.
Just wait till the UN, Humans Rights Watch, Doctors Without Borders, Cocker Spaniel relief, Humans Left Wristwatch, and Recep Tayyip Erdogan hear about this!
 

[-ammo-]

This is an outrage! indiscriminate bombing in civilian areas.
Just wait till the UN, Humans Rights Watch, Doctors Without Borders, Cocker Spaniel relief, Humans Left Wristwatch, and Recep Tayyip Erdogan hear about this!
 

   Ain't that the truth.  Tell it like it is Bozon

[GScholz]

... drones are too small for big jobs like this;

Current generation, yes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAiZ6SS2oSA

[caldera]

I'm pretty sure that's what the Nazis said...

Intentionally targeting and executing civilians is not war, just plain murder.  The Allies were guilty of this during WWII, but bombing cities to destroy factories and infrastructure is hardly equivalent to concentration camp genocide. 

Our modern enemy is clothed as civilians and hides among them.  Collateral casualties in large numbers may be necessary to kill all the jihadists.  Tippy-toeing around has never worked.  It only sometimes shuts them up for a while.  The enemy holds no regard for their own populace, much less ours and gets their jollies killing innocents.  They are playing for keeps and the only way they will back down is by getting crushed on an unprecedented scale.  I don't mean break out the nukes, but unload everything else at them until they beg for mercy.  There is no diplomatic solution, so long as political correctness and the court of world opinion continues to appease them - even to the extent of letting them force their views and rules in our countries.

[Lusche]

Our modern enemy is clothed as civilians and hides among them.  Collateral casualties in large numbers may be necessary to kill all the jihadists. 

And this is actually something they are hoping for.
Because it's a very old guerilla strategy that worked before. Don't worry about the civillians that will suffer from the enemy's retaliation strikes - it will radicalize them (and hopefully public opinion in other countries) and not a few will join your ranks or support you in other ways.

[DREDIOCK]

Drones of today may be too small. But nothing stopping anyone from making a full sized aircraft a drone. The could probably convert any full sized aircraft into a drone already for that matter.

And the upside is they could design aircraft that can exceed human tolerances. when you dont have to worry about the effects of Gs on a human body

[TonyJoey]

The bad guys don't follow any rules and neither should we.  The more terrible you make war, the sooner it will be over.

How terrible is war when you can zap your enemies while sitting comfortably thousands of miles away? Having such advanced technology seems to me to make war a lot easier and thus makes us much more prone to starting them.

[GScholz]