Needing a Tablet

[guncrasher]

I understand now you bought a  crappy phone then blamed the os for it.  It would be like me buying an apple11c and blaming the os because I can't play current games.



semp

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I understand now you bought a  crappy phone then blamed the os for it.  It would be like me buying an apple11c and blaming the os because I can't play current games.



semp

The phone was new when we bought it. Which part of the rampant malware problem and the bugginess did you miss? The inability to use the microSD for apps is nothing but a design flaw on software side as some apps supported it, some not.

[guncrasher]

The phone was new when we bought it. Which part of the rampant malware problem and the bugginess did you miss? The inability to use the microSD for apps is nothing but a design flaw on software side as some apps supported it, some not.

I bought my ex a simple phone.   The hydro something or other.   It has a crappy design too and not a lot of memory.   Micro sds don't work well with it.   The problem is not the os but the phone design.  I have the note 2 and have none of the problems.

There's also some apps that won't work with some phones.  mostly because of the phone design.   


semp

[Vulcan]

The phone was new when we bought it. Which part of the rampant malware problem and the bugginess did you miss? The inability to use the microSD for apps is nothing but a design flaw on software side as some apps supported it, some not.

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rampant malware problem? I see reports of more iOS devices being comprimised (either directly or via icloud) than android.

The inability to use an SD card for apps was in Android 2.0 or earlier (very very old android). About the same time the iphone lacked simple features like cut and paste, or BT Audio playback support.

You are incredibly bias towards ios, apple can do no wrong in your eyes so I don't see how your posts can be considered helpful?

Oh and:
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2847709/security/vulnerability-leaves-iphones-open-to-fake-app-attack.html#jump

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I bought my ex a simple phone.   The hydro something or other.   It has a crappy design too and not a lot of memory.   Micro sds don't work well with it.   The problem is not the os but the phone design.  I have the note 2 and have none of the problems.

There's also some apps that won't work with some phones.  mostly because of the phone design.   


semp

You get no 'phone design' problems with iPhones. They work. Start to see the difference?

[MrRiplEy[H]]

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rampant malware problem? I see reports of more iOS devices being comprimised (either directly or via icloud) than android.

The inability to use an SD card for apps was in Android 2.0 or earlier (very very old android). About the same time the iphone lacked simple features like cut and paste, or BT Audio playback support.

You are incredibly bias towards ios, apple can do no wrong in your eyes so I don't see how your posts can be considered helpful?

Oh and:
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2847709/security/vulnerability-leaves-iphones-open-to-fake-app-attack.html#jump

Stop spreading FUD this attack is purely theoretical since anyone using it would have to get it through the app store. Even update packets are signed and verified. Also if a dev would try to pull something like this he would never develop for Apple again. Apple store is not like Google play where anyone with an e-mail and 20 bucks can publish stuff. You need to register and get approved.

[Vulcan]

You get no 'phone design' problems with iPhones. They work. Start to see the difference?

Yeah coz there's been never any design issues with iphones, like Antennagate on the iPhone 4.

Now I'm not sure if you're trolling or not?

Stop spreading FUD this attack is purely theoretical since anyone using it would have to get it through the app store. Even update packets are signed and verified. Also if a dev would try to pull something like this he would never develop for Apple again. Apple store is not like Google play where anyone with an e-mail and 20 bucks can publish stuff. You need to register and get approved.

FUD? Maybe you should WATCH the video, maybe you should read the official CERT warnings ( https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-317A ). If you pulled your head out of apples backside long enough to see the real world you would have noticed this attack does not install from the app store nor does it require the replace malware to get past apple.

Here's the official CERT posting:

Alert (TA14-317A)
Apple iOS "Masque Attack" Technique
Original release date: November 13, 2014 | Last revised: November 17, 2014
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Systems Affected
iOS devices running iOS 7.1.1, 7.1.2, 8.0, 8.1, and 8.1.1 beta.
Overview
A technique labeled “Masque Attack” allows an attacker to substitute malware for a legitimate iOS app under a limited set of circumstances.
Description
Masque Attack was described by FireEye mobile security researchers [1] (link is external), Stefan Esser of SektionEins, and Jonathan Zdziarski. This attack works by luring users to install an app from a source other than the iOS App Store or their organizations’ provisioning system. In order for the attack to succeed, a user must install an untrusted app, such as one delivered through a phishing link. 
This technique takes advantage of a security weakness that allows an untrusted app—with the same “bundle identifier” as that of a legitimate app—to replace the legitimate app on an affected device, while keeping all of the user’s data. This vulnerability exists because iOS does not enforce matching certificates for apps with the same bundle identifier. Apple’s own iOS platform apps, such as Mobile Safari, are not vulnerable.
Impact
An app installed on an iOS device using this technique may:
Mimic the original app’s login interface to steal the victim’s login credentials.
Access sensitive data from local data caches.
Perform background monitoring of the user’s device.
Gain root privileges to the iOS device.
Be indistinguishable from a genuine app.
Solution
iOS users can protect themselves from Masque Attacks by following three steps:
Don’t install apps from sources other than Apple’s official App Store or your own organization.
Don’t click “Install” from a third-party pop-up when viewing a web page.
When opening an app, if iOS shows an “Untrusted App Developer” alert, click on “Don’t Trust” and uninstall the app immediately.
Further details on Masque Attack and mitigation guidance can be found on FireEye’s blog [1] (link is external). US-CERT does not endorse or support any particular product or vendor.
References
[1] FireEye (link is external)
Revisions
November 13, 2014: Initial Release
November 17, 2014: Vulnerability attribution amended

And.... before you jump in with "but the user has to tap on install", this is how 99% of Windows PC get infected, idiots clicking on links etc. And imho the apple user base is not significantly smarter (if at all) than the Windows user base.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Yeah coz there's been never any design issues with iphones, like Antennagate on the iPhone 4.

Now I'm not sure if you're trolling or not?

There are about 2000 different android hardware designs for sale as we speak, containing a dozen different versions of Android. It's a nightmare for developers and consumers. On iPhone you only get the current models that are well supported and garanteed to work.

This attack works by luring users to install an app from a source other than the iOS App Store or their organizations’ provisioning system. In order for the attack to succeed, a user must install an untrusted app, such as one delivered through a phishing link. 

So as long as you use your phone the way you're supposed to and not install software from outside sources you're perfectly safe. Without a jailbreak you can't install apps on an iphone outside of app store. So quit spreading your FUD.

[Skuzzy]

This is no longer helpful.

There is enough incorrect information in this thread to warrant it useless.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

See Rule #4

[Skuzzy]

That topic was locked to prevent this type of thing from going on.  There is nothing to be gained from fanboys beating their chests on the forum.

There were a number of things incorrect in this previous thread.  If anyone wants to find the answers, then Google is your friend.  As this forum is not about Apple, and our game is not intended for those products, a virulent discussion does not need to take place here.  Take it to an Apple appropriate forum, please.

There is one truism about the Internet.  If you have an opinion, you can find someone who will back it up.  It does not mean it is valid.  It does not mean it is not valid.  It is just what it is.