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[rvflyer]

How could we, you never share that information.  Nor  the results of the marketing focus groups that your marketing department has developed to help guide you with the best strategy for marking.   

Nor is it your business Traveler.

[Lusche]

Nor is it your business Traveler.

Are you implying paying $14.95 doesn't give us a seat on the board of directors? It's an outrage, I say! 

[USCH]

Are you implying paying $14.95 doesn't give us a seat on the board of directors? It's an outrage, I say! 

so true  I want to be heard lol  who has my sheep 

Ps I'm going b29 hunting snail is typing a lot during this evening..

[Wmaker]

peak/offpeak arena system  

We have a saying in Finland: who raises the cats tail if not the cat itself...

EDIT/I really loved the fact that you suggestion was implemented, so all in good fun! /EDIT

[Lusche]

 

[hitech]

But Maybe sometimes it would be helpful to explain some things.

I wish this were the case but think of simply how this thread has gone, I did just explain that we have tried air shows, what has been the result? In fact I would bet I have stated in the past that we have tried air shows.

I can explain simple facts that most players have an expiration date. Some know they do and just go on to the next thing they wish to have fun at, I used to play WOW for a few years, but finally lost interest, I don't blame Blizzard for my loss of interest in fact WOW's player base numbers have also declined at similar % to ours. You tend to know a player has passed his point when he starts being extremely vocal about some little detail being the cause of him not having fun.

Reality is that for AH  to grow again it is all about  attracting new customers, and very little to do with keeping the current ones. That simple explanation will be taken out of context at some point, but people who play the same game for many years in a row are not the norm. To maintain viability it is all about inflow rates and out flow rates. At some point (average player life time) trying to slow the out flow rate does not make economic sense.

HiTech

[mthrockmor]

So if it is all in/out flow then it is marketing that counts. And if ROI at airshows is a bust, then something else. In my firm, with an annual budget of $8million the single best form of marketing is word of mouth/referral. The second is Facebook. The first, accounts for 70% of business, with Facebook way, way behind the curve at 20%.

What about gorilla marketing?

PS The first aspect of gorilla marketing/word of mouth is having something that thrills the home crowd. If this thread is an indication I would focus on the top-5 to -10 issues that would cost the least to modify, implement and measure response. Once the natives are settled some implement one of many campaigns to choose from and off we go. I would bet the ROI for such a campaign would be very rewarding. The easy changes, such as the darbar issue, etc could likely be adjusted in an afternoon.

[Zoney]

Ps I'm going b29 hunting snail is typing a lot during this evening..

That is Brilliant, I love the way you think. 

[USCH]

I wish this were the case but think of simply how this thread has gone, I did just explain that we have tried air shows, what has been the result? In fact I would bet I have stated in the past that we have tried air shows.

I can explain simple facts that most players have an expiration date. Some know they do and just go on to the next thing they wish to have fun at, I used to play WOW for a few years, but finally lost interest, I don't blame Blizzard for my loss of interest in fact WOW's player base numbers have also declined at similar % to ours. You tend to know a player has passed his point when he starts being extremely vocal about some little detail being the cause of him not having fun.

Reality is that for AH  to grow again it is all about  attracting new customers, and very little to do with keeping the current ones. That simple explanation will be taken out of context at some point, but people who play the same game for many years in a row are not the norm. To maintain viability it is all about inflow rates and out flow rates. At some point (average player life time) trying to slow the out flow rate does not make economic sense.

HiTech

as always thank you, hay I bucking the trend by staying and knowing I'm not going anyplace. I own one game on my PC and don't own anything that plugs into my tv.  I always knew I was a rebel. 

[Lusche]

What about gorilla marketing?

I don't think gorillas are much into flight combat games. But maybe Zack knows better, he's from Uganda after all 

[Zoney]

We have Gorilla's in our midst ?

[USCH]

I don't think gorillas are much into flight combat games. But maybe Zack knows better, he's from Uganda after all 

no his last post in the o club said he is Mongolian..

[Lusche]

no his last post in the o club said he is Mongolian..

Mongolia is the capital city of Uganda...

[Stampf]

I wish this were the case but think of simply how this thread has gone, I did just explain that we have tried air shows, what has been the result? In fact I would bet I have stated in the past that we have tried air shows.

I can explain simple facts that most players have an expiration date. Some know they do and just go on to the next thing they wish to have fun at, I used to play WOW for a few years, but finally lost interest, I don't blame Blizzard for my loss of interest in fact WOW's player base numbers have also declined at similar % to ours. You tend to know a player has passed his point when he starts being extremely vocal about some little detail being the cause of him not having fun.

Reality is that for AH  to grow again it is all about  attracting new customers, and very little to do with keeping the current ones. That simple explanation will be taken out of context at some point, but people who play the same game for many years in a row are not the norm. To maintain viability it is all about inflow rates and out flow rates. At some point (average player life time) trying to slow the out flow rate does not make economic sense.

HiTech

I guess that makes us like your own...'300'.  Not quite right in the head, but damn handy to have around in a pinch.

Sparta will need sons.   

[230G]

I wish this were the case but think of simply how this thread has gone, I did just explain that we have tried air shows, what has been the result? In fact I would bet I have stated in the past that we have tried air shows.

I can explain simple facts that most players have an expiration date. Some know they do and just go on to the next thing they wish to have fun at, I used to play WOW for a few years, but finally lost interest, I don't blame Blizzard for my loss of interest in fact WOW's player base numbers have also declined at similar % to ours. You tend to know a player has passed his point when he starts being extremely vocal about some little detail being the cause of him not having fun.

Reality is that for AH  to grow again it is all about  attracting new customers, and very little to do with keeping the current ones. That simple explanation will be taken out of context at some point, but people who play the same game for many years in a row are not the norm. To maintain viability it is all about inflow rates and out flow rates. At some point (average player life time) trying to slow the out flow rate does not make economic sense.

HiTech

  Really? I completely understand your point about folks getting tired of the game, finding some microscopic bit to whine about, then using that excuse for leaving. But come on, surely I'm not alone in my point of view. I really do check the main page 2 - 3 times per week looking for some sort of news, update, ANYTHING. I STILL love the game but as many others have alluded to, can't always sit down for an hour looking for something at which to shoot.
  Case in point: I used to play COD on-line simply because it was so easy to log on for a few minutes, kill/get killed then go about my business around the house. How I wish AH was similar to that! And I can assure you that when I AM able to sit down for a few minutes here and there and enjoy myself (like it used to be), my account becomes active again and STAYS active, as it once was. And BTW I did grow tired of COD but still wait around here for some glimmer of hope. Am I alone in my thinking or reasoning?