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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2015, 02:11:35 AM »
ya sorry man...no friggen excuse to hunt Elephant...none what so ever....

hunt game animals.... Elephants are NOT game animals...hunt for food...

if you wanna do something to help the animals...ya...shoot em thats the fn ticket.... :rolleyes:

I just don't understand that thinking.

same mentality got rid of the Tasmanian Tiger....and that pisses me off to no end.


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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2015, 02:36:54 AM »
theyve been game animals for years and years you ladies worry about something a bit more important if you would, like our country.....its kinda goin down hill like this thread.

As for hunting elephants its a choice people make folks enjoy hunting and you goons enjoy laughing about the death of a hunter.....to each his own. Yall are behind though, elephants have lost a lot more of those shootouts than theyve won.
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2015, 03:19:59 AM »
theyve been game animals for years and years you ladies worry about something a bit more important if you would, like our country.....its kinda goin down hill like this thread.

As for hunting elephants its a choice people make folks enjoy hunting and you goons enjoy laughing about the death of a hunter.....to each his own. Yall are behind though, elephants have lost a lot more of those shootouts than theyve won.

Maybe we have to give the elephants a few rifles, then let's see who loses!
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2015, 04:09:22 AM »
Please note the elephant was in no way or form North Korean.

And yes we all agree if you have a express rifle your real man who defends freedom of speech.

They shoot african elephants because they have the coin too.

Using a spear on a elephant takes skill.

Do they eat said elephant.

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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2015, 05:15:51 AM »
I wonder what elephant tastes like fried in butter....  Or deep fried....

Guess I need to plan a safari

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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2015, 09:24:41 AM »
I heard someone tried to hunt Winston but Winston approached the hunter and apologized for not being closer... Needless to say the hunter spared Winston and they shared pancakes with maple syrup...

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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2015, 10:09:53 AM »
Apparently none of y'all are hunters or have been to Africa. Its tragic but knowing their is risk involved in dangerous game is part of the sport. This hunter has done more for the animals than any one that sits at a computer and says wtg on his death. Thats just sick.. The money and active dedication in a big game hunt is tremendous. It goes so much further than any outside could even imagine.

Come to my ranch for a couple days and find out the truth about hunting and the outdoors..

I agree 100% with you  FX.......the tens of thousands of dollars this one hunter paid to hunt this animal goes right back into the budget of the game wardens the country (Zimbabwe) uses to protect these animals from poachers. (Yes that's tens of thousands, not thousands)Not to mention the thousands in equipment this hunter purchased here in the US that (by law) a portion of goes to protect and conserve wildlife here in the US. Hunters are one of the ( if not the) largest contributors to the protection and conservation of wildlife, and their habitat.

I guess it's just easier to get emotional then do a little homework or research into how these hunts help these species.




I'm not going to even touch the fact that people are saying this man got what he deserved. I'm quite certain this man has done more to conserve wildlife and protect threatened species than anyone here reveling in his death. Pathetic.
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2015, 10:53:32 AM »
See Rule #14
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2015, 11:09:55 AM »
I agree 100% with you  FX.......the tens of thousands of dollars this one hunter paid to hunt this animal goes right back into the budget of the game wardens the country (Zimbabwe) uses to protect these animals from poachers. (Yes that's tens of thousands, not thousands)Not to mention the thousands in equipment this hunter purchased here in the US that (by law) a portion of goes to protect and conserve wildlife here in the US. Hunters are one of the ( if not the) largest contributors to the protection and conservation of wildlife, and their habitat.

I guess it's just easier to get emotional then do a little homework or research into how these hunts help these species.




I'm not going to even touch the fact that people are saying this man got what he deserved. I'm quite certain this man has done more to conserve wildlife and protect threatened species than anyone here reveling in his death. Pathetic.

Gibberish and you know it


Donate the money to  poor Africans to stop them selling endangered carcasses to millionaires.

The bloke who got trampled did it for his own gratification don't paint it any other way.

Emotional?, I could not give a rats butt cheek about elephants I will never have enough coin to visit these god forsaken countries to see one.

The Bull elephant getting blasted and with its dying breath taking him out is no ones fault but his own.

If one of you would say we do it because we have the coin I would understand it, don't come back with the conversation nonsense.

Cull the elephant's but don't make a business out of it.



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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2015, 11:17:37 AM »
Sounds like he got overconfident when he decided to start tracking the bull by himself.  I've never hunted elephants, but I can think of at least 216 reasons why I'd like to have another set of eyes around if I were.

Some of you fussing about hunting sound exactly like my wife when she fusses about video games.  I get that it's not your cup of tea, but take a moment to process what you're typing, will you.  Being happy about someone dying whom you didn't know is poor form, IMO.  As for a hunter's role in conservation, it's pretty simple. In a lot of places around the world, it's the hunters who are the most invested (financially and emotionally) in seeing their chosen game animals survive and thrive.  Non-hunters, save for a few PETA members, usually don't care very much... or at least not enough to help out.  So yes, hunters pull the trigger from time to time and kill things, but they usually contribute far more than they take away.  You guys see the headlines, trophies, and stories, but you should probably follow them around for a bit before you really commit to that opinion that today's hunters are all maniacal, blood-thirsty jerks who only know death.

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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2015, 11:44:15 AM »
I agree 100% with you  FX.......the tens of thousands of dollars this one hunter paid to hunt this animal goes right back into the budget of the game wardens the country (Zimbabwe) uses to protect these animals from poachers. (Yes that's tens of thousands, not thousands)Not to mention the thousands in equipment this hunter purchased here in the US that (by law) a portion of goes to protect and conserve wildlife here in the US. Hunters are one of the ( if not the) largest contributors to the protection and conservation of wildlife, and their habitat.

I guess it's just easier to get emotional then do a little homework or research into how these hunts help these species.




I'm not going to even touch the fact that people are saying this man got what he deserved. I'm quite certain this man has done more to conserve wildlife and protect threatened species than anyone here reveling in his death. Pathetic.

Of course the tens of thousands goes into creating idyllic pacchyderm habitats in Zimbabwe. After all, Bob Mugabe is happy to just past that cash on to game reserves. Bearing in mind what a benevolent and thoughtful soul he is. Rarely have I read such nonsense.
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2015, 11:50:52 AM »
It's the other way around. African Elephants are protected wild animals, Asian Elephants partially serve as draught animals although the wild living ones have got somewhat endangered, too.

The African elephant is not listed as endangered, but vulnerable. The Asian elephant is listed as endangered. There are ten times as many African elephants than there are Asian.

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"African elephants were listed as vulnerable by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) in 2008, with no independent assessment of the conservation status of the two forms.[29] In 1979, Africa had an estimated minimum population of 1.3 million elephants, with a possible upper limit of 3.0 million. By 1989, the population was estimated to be 609,000; with 277,000 in Central Africa, 110,000 in eastern Africa, 204,000 in southern Africa, and 19,000 in western Africa. About 214,000 elephants were estimated to live in the rainforests, fewer than had previously been thought. From 1977 to 1989, elephant populations declined by 74% in East Africa. After 1987, losses in elephant numbers accelerated, and savannah populations from Cameroon to Somalia experienced a decline of 80%. African forest elephants had a total loss of 43%. Population trends in southern Africa were mixed, with anecdotal reports of losses in Zambia, Mozambique and Angola, while populations grew in Botswana and Zimbabwe and were stable in South Africa.[145] Conversely, studies in 2005 and 2007 found populations in eastern and southern Africa were increasing by an average annual rate of 4.0%.[29] Due to the vast areas involved, assessing the total African elephant population remains difficult and involves an element of guesswork. The IUCN estimates a total of around 440,000 individuals for 2012.[146]

African elephants receive at least some legal protection in every country where they are found, but 70% of their range exists outside protected areas. Successful conservation efforts in certain areas have led to high population densities. As of 2008, local numbers were controlled by contraception or translocation. Large-scale cullings ceased in 1988, when Zimbabwe abandoned the practice. In 1989, the African elephant was listed under Appendix I by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES), making trade illegal. Appendix II status (which allows restricted trade) was given to elephants in Botswana, Namibia and Zimbabwe in 1997 and South Africa in 2000. In some countries, sport hunting of the animals is legal; Botswana, Cameroon, Gabon, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa, Tanzania, Zambia, and Zimbabwe have CITES export quotas for elephant trophies.[29]

In 2008, the IUCN listed the Asian elephant as endangered due to a 50% population decline over the past 60–75 years,[147] while CITES lists the species under Appendix I.[147] Asian elephants once ranged from Syria and Iraq (the subspecies Elephas maximus asurus), to China (up to the Yellow River)[148] and Java. It is now extinct in these areas,[147] and the current range of Asian elephants is highly fragmented.[148] The total population of Asian elephants is estimated to be around 40,000–50,000, although this may be a loose estimate. It is likely that around half of the population is in India. Although Asian elephants are declining in numbers overall, particularly in Southeast Asia, the population in the Western Ghats appears to be increasing.[147]"
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2015, 12:19:37 PM »
Another false statement is that a elephant goes to waste. I have personally been apart of a elephant hunt and after the kill 20 of the local tribe men were at the seen within a couple hours. Before the next day most of the carcass was cleaned but as the tribes tradition they didn't take the head so that other animals could a feast. I have no interest in killing a elephant but i do understand that their a natural resources and if managed properly bring $$ and food to some of the poorest people on this earth.

Nature life cycle is constant and as a hunter we are the ones to protect and pass down our traditions. Its sadden me that their are more people in this world that dont hunt than in my fathers generation. I eat wild game every other meal and i am proud that my family has the opportunity to experience the outdoors.

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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2015, 12:33:49 PM »
I stand corrected. I mistranslated vulnerable to endangered.

That doesn't nullify the fact that the amount of African elephants has dropped dramatically during the last decades and even more during the last two centuries. It's a massive drop from 27 millions to 700000 http://www.edgeofexistence.org/mammals/species_info.php?id=77#population_trend on an area 1.5 times as large as North America. African countries would be drowning in dollars if they had got tens of thousands for each killed elephant. I don't believe the elephants have had to give way to African metropolises.
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2015, 12:34:20 PM »
I had a pheasant shot by my brother in law the other day.

Feeding African's in Mugabe's ruined country is not the way forward.

Zimbabwe was the biggest food producer in Africa. 

Now your saying killing elephants is used to feed these people.

The moon is made out of cheese as well.

They shoot elephant's because they have the coin.

I bet they feel AWESOME after despatching one, and they neck a couple of Viagra to get a rod.

What skill is there in killing a Elephant with a express rifle?

Rich people again taking advantage of poor people.



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