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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #90 on: May 07, 2015, 09:48:30 AM »
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #91 on: May 07, 2015, 09:53:35 AM »
Fighting guys like 2cmex really hit this point home for me. Anyone can feel like an super star fighting the likes of the average MA stick, but fighting/dueling guys who know how to aim will shows you just how little you actually know.

Yeah, and this is where cannon-armed planes shine, IMO. Coupled with good aim, it's very easy to dispatch opponents quickly. Cannons are statistically harder to shoot, but much more effective when mastered.
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #92 on: May 07, 2015, 09:58:13 AM »
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #93 on: May 07, 2015, 10:04:32 AM »
The last paragraph??

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280043.0.html

This thread involves shot setup, and involves ACM

The thread you linked to demonstrates deflection shooting, or "snapshot" gunnery. Gunnery can be broken down into a few distinct separate disciplines, all of them having specific advantages and disadvantages. Grizz's thread outlines deflection shooting. The downsize to deflection shooting it that it almost always requires accepting an overshoot condition. It's very effective for cannoned planes, but you typically need either an energy advantage or a neutral angular position at the shot to fully take advantage of it.

And yeah, I saw that thread some time back. I was surprised at how similar Grizz's methodology for shooting was to my own.
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #94 on: May 07, 2015, 10:09:07 AM »
The thread you linked to demonstrates deflection shooting, or "snapshot" gunnery. Gunnery can be broken down into a few distinct separate disciplines, all of them having specific advantages and disadvantages. Grizz's thread outlines deflection shooting. The downsize to deflection shooting it that it almost always requires accepting an overshoot condition. It's very effective for cannoned planes, but you typically need either an energy advantage or a neutral angular position at the shot to fully take advantage of it.

And yeah, I saw that thread some time back. I was surprised at how similar Grizz's methodology for shooting was to my own.

Understood

And of course, that method I remember someone saying was similar to the way it was taught at TopGun, was surprised to see that actually.
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #95 on: May 07, 2015, 10:29:53 AM »
Is a tracking shot simply a lag pursuit with the lead turn?

I've never been able to specifically recognize a track shot like I'm able to recognize a deflection shot.
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #96 on: May 07, 2015, 10:38:40 AM »
Is a tracking shot simply a lag pursuit with the lead turn?

I've never been able to specifically recognize a track shot like I'm able to recognize a deflection shot.

It might be, or it could be lessening an over-lead, etc.

Tracking shots are when you actively aim for where the opponent is currently (hence you are effectively tracking their current flight path).
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #97 on: May 07, 2015, 10:54:48 AM »
Deflection and angle shots require a certain understanding of ACM and skill to be able to make the shots. They are crucial shots for 30mm cannons. That is why I think the 109K while being fast and nimble, isnt flown properly by most people who consider it an easy mode plane. They don't know how to get into the positions necessary to make quick snap shot at d100 which makes aming the K4 100xs easier. Most guys fly it like they are flying a P47 and BnZ with lead shots and wonder why they run out of ammo or can't hit their targets.
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #98 on: May 07, 2015, 10:57:14 AM »
Deflection and angle shots require a certain understanding of ACM and skill to be able to make the shots. They are crucial shots for 30mm cannons. That is why I think the 109K while being fast and nimble, isnt flown properly by most people who consider it an easy mode plane. They don't know how to get into the positions necessary to make quick snap shot at d100 which makes aming the K4 100xs easier. Most guys fly it like they are flying a P47 and BnZ with lead shots and wonder why they run out of ammo or can't hit their targets.

Pffff. What are you talking about? 30mm shots are easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAO2Np5-UAI

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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #99 on: May 07, 2015, 11:08:14 AM »
Whats funny is 30mm is the only cannon that I feel comfortable with.
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #100 on: May 07, 2015, 11:37:36 AM »
People need to give the K4 credit. Best plane in the game obviously.
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #101 on: May 07, 2015, 11:43:55 AM »
People need to give the K4 credit. Best plane in the game obviously.

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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #102 on: May 07, 2015, 11:47:43 AM »
:rofl

 good one

I've been waiting for you.

Now shut the hell up.


Admit it :banana:
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #103 on: May 07, 2015, 11:53:47 AM »
K4 is lame, cant even go 500 mph without having a seizure.
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Re: Your Best Tip on Getting Better
« Reply #104 on: May 07, 2015, 11:57:16 AM »
K4 is lame, cant even go 500 mph without having a seizure.

This is coming from the one that fancy's the P40.

Looks like the designer for that plane had a seizure while making a sketch.
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