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Offline Meatwad

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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2015, 12:28:32 PM »
So after the surgery will it be on stage singing "puttin on the ritz"?
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2015, 01:51:18 PM »
This doc who wants to try this on a human being talks as if he has all the answers on how to do this. That's like me saying I can go out and fly a helicopter because I understand the theory of operating one, even though I've never actually flown one (though I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express, once). The lynch pin of the entire procedure is a proposed method to cleanly sever the spinal chords of both the donor and the recipient, then using a fairly common chemical to fuse the spinal chords together. To the best of my knowledge, having read a number of articles about this, that's never been successfully demonstrated. Unfortunately, this doc already has some hopeless soul of a volunteer convinced this is just a year or two away from reality.
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2015, 04:53:05 PM »
So given our technology and advancements, which will happen first for the uber wealthy?

Full head transplant with no problems or full memory and consciousness transfer to the donor's body?

Lots of good work is happening with mice, telomeres, and turning back an old mouse's body clock and physical state to that of a youthful mouse. UCLA was working on a drug to help heart muscle repair itself versus scaring which eventually tears under load later on. A side effect was effective weight loss and muscle mass growth in the rest of your body without getting off the couch. The drug was targeting heart attack victims stuck being sedentary for long periods to recover. Body building in a bottle was one joke about it.

Read about it in Gizmag at the same time that 41 year old nobody lady swimmer, came out of no where, ripped and suddenly very strong, to beat out girls half here age for the Olympics. Her boyfriend just happened to be a nutritionist out of SoCal at the same time UCLA was working on that drug. Which the Olympics doping tests didn't test for at that time.
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2015, 05:24:05 PM »
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2015, 05:27:30 PM »
Gotta say, I'm kind of surprised with the direction this thread is taking. I would have put money on it quickly turning into a mud slinging contest.

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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2015, 05:47:18 PM »
Gotta say, I'm kind of surprised with the direction this thread is taking. I would have put money on it quickly turning into a mud slinging contest.

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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2015, 06:08:02 PM »
So given our technology and advancements, which will happen first for the uber wealthy?

Full head transplant with no problems or full memory and consciousness transfer to the donor's body?

i believe head transplant ; ISIS  can supply plenty of  headless bodies ,maybe end up in rich punks freezer waiting for reincarnation;

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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2015, 07:35:25 PM »
Possibly since the age related trigger that turns off spinal cord cell regeneration has been discovered and turned back on in lab mice.

Sad thing about these things like that. I read the article when it comes out. Then I cannot find anything as a follow up in the future on how it is progressing or failed. Especially drugs like the body building in a bottle. Or the testing on mice that turned back the aging process equivalent to a 60 year old man having his aging process reversed to about his late 20's.

A common theme in all of these is the ability to keep excess youthful population around for a very indeterminate amount of time. If you are able to keep your internal age clock in it's 20's, and your body buff out of a bottle, and injuries healed by turning back on age disabled repair functions. When will you get out of the way of younger generations and let them have jobs? Will your ageless demographic refuse to give up control and never go away? Who would really be willing to commit suicide just to get out of the way for the good of future generations once they had these medical break trough's to live 200, 300, 500, 1000 ........even another 50 years with an effective 25 year old body?

Given human greed and lack of caring about anyone but self when it comes to these kinds of things. All of this will be abused to the farthest limits possible once it was made available. This would be a genie once let out of the bottle, that the bottle would be pulverized, then with millions, even billions of helping hands, shot into the sun.
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2015, 08:09:58 PM »
People would still die from disease and accidents. And a one death = one child license arrangement would keep the population stable.
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2015, 09:38:52 PM »
Or... We could have roll the dice wars where each side marches a number of their population into a vaporizer closet like the classic trek episode... Logan's run come to mind as well.
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2015, 09:47:54 PM »
 I know some I'd put forth as body donators...if the donators brains were destroyed after...
 No, that is too crass, they can keep Zack1234's head in bottle after...
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2015, 11:00:25 PM »
I personally have issues with the ethics of this, I don't think it should be done. Death is something that humans have been dealing with for thousands of years, it's a mandatory part of being alive.

However, I do recognize the success of this operation as an incredibly important milestone. If this operation is a success and the patient makes a full recovery (as in the full regeneration of the spinal chord) it could pave the way for something even better IMO. When an organ donor goes into the hospital, the doctors are able to remove their organs and save several other lives because of that persons generosity. But if something like this is successful, it means that the arms and legs (as well as other currently unusable parts of the body) could also be given to someone who is in need.

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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2015, 12:37:20 AM »
 Dragon Tamer, I am aware of your reservations.
 However, I am ready to accept your body for my head...
 Peace unto you and yours. Please keep Zack1234 in his bottle.
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2015, 01:42:12 AM »
I know some I'd put forth as body donators...if the donators brains were destroyed after...
 No, that is too crass, they can keep Zack1234's head in bottle after...
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Re: Human Head transplant
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2015, 10:39:24 AM »
  How about learning how to understanding the human body to have itself cure diseases and cancer instead of some grotesque lab experiment.



   
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