Open carry Texas

[Skyyr]

So you're telling me you can drive down to your local Walmart in a Humvee with a loaded M2 in back and a crate of grenades on the seat beside you?

I was not aware of that.  What happens to you if you use any of it?

Wiley.

People drive down the street with M2's and such on their trucks at a decently regular rate, and it becomes increasingly more common the further west you are. Is it a very common sight? No, but it's not something that causes panic either.

You can use such devices on private property, designated public property (areas where shooting is allowed), and properly-equipped ranges.

[PR3D4TOR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw6eeAhU5-Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuOatfby57U

[Wiley]

People drive down the street with M2's and such on their trucks at a decently regular rate, and it becomes increasingly more common the further west you are. Is it a very common sight? No, but it's not something that causes panic either.

You can use such devices on private property, designated public property (areas where shooting is allowed), and properly-equipped ranges.

So... not as a weapon, only for target practice in designated areas.

Wiley.

[PR3D4TOR]

You are not allowed to fire any weapon in public unless you're legally defending yourself or others, so obviously you're shooting these guns at ranges. That doesn't mean that you can't use a legally owned machine gun in self defense if that situation should arise. Though you'd have to be mighty high or stupid to try anything against a guy with an M2 on his pickup...

[Wiley]

You are not allowed to fire any weapon in public unless you're legally defending yourself or others, so obviously you're shooting these guns at ranges. That doesn't mean that you can't use a legally owned machine gun in self defense if that situation should arise. Though you'd have to be mighty high or stupid to try anything against a guy with an M2 on his pickup...

So just to be clear, you'd be perfectly ok sitting in the local coffee shop in line with the guys involved in a knife fight when the guy in the parking lot decides to break it up with his M2 and stack of grenades?

Cool.  Glad I don't live in your world.

Wiley.

[PR3D4TOR]

I don't think anyone lives in that world except Mad Max, but that never stopped anyone from having irrational fears of situations that don't happen in real life. Some people are afraid of birds... I guess that's Hitchcock's fault.

[Wiley]

I don't think anyone lives in that world except Mad Max, but that never stopped anyone from having irrational fears of situations that don't happen in real life. Some people are afraid of birds... I guess that's Hitchcock's fault.

Where did I say I thought it would happen?  I'm just asking, would you see a guy open up on someone with an M2 on a city street and your first thought would be, "Oh good, a law abiding citizen is exercising his right to self defense.  I am sure all will work out well."

Wiley.

[PR3D4TOR]

I would probably take cover. The motivations behind or legality of the machine gun fire would only play a very secondary role in my thought process at the time. Now it's my turn for silly hypothetical scenarios: If an M2 machine gun owner on his way to a gun range has a flat tire on the highway, when he is suddenly and unexpectedly attacked by Mexican bandits without any stinking badges. Is he not fully justified in using the machine gun to defend himself?

[NatCigg]

the paranoia seems to be with the gun owners; and the exaggerated fear that many people want to murder in a flashy way to get noticed.  this is not normal.  in the hollywood version of dreamland you might be able to save the day with your gun, and sure it can do things that not much else can in certain situations, but in reality your more likely to invite unnecessary problems your way by carrying, let alone brandishing a gun.  History shows we have been through this before.  Everyone carrying and flashing guns creates more problems.  Texas will reap what it sows.  Id like to see the facts but Ive heard more gun stories gone wrong since beginning of the 2000 era gun culture paranoia.  More flashing pistol stories, more shootouts, and more bullony.  The whole story is crap, this new push for a open carry law is built off paranoia, and the gun culture is winding itself up for a long painful lesson.

[Wiley]

Predator: Morally, yes.

Do you feel he should also be able to use his stack of legally purchased explosives?  How about in an urban area?  If not, why not?

Wiley.

[guncrasher]

I would probably take cover. The motivations behind or legality of the machine gun fire would only play a very secondary role in my thought process at the time. Now it's my turn for silly hypothetical scenarios: If an M2 machine gun owner on his way to a gun range has a flat tire on the highway, when he is suddenly and unexpectedly attacked by Mexican bandits without any stinking badges. Is he not fully justified in using the machine gun to defend himself?

what if the Mexican. bandits have water pistols? 


semp

[Thruster]

"Is he not fully justified in using the machine gun"

Probly depends on where you are. Back home they call that target practice. I think they still have a Boy Scout badge for it. But they have to be in season.

Someone mentioned earlier that it's gonna primarily benefit the CCW carrier when he needs to be less than discrete. Try packin' a 1911 IWB all day at Six Flags....in July.

Remember we're talking Texas here. With ever increasing exceptions they define civility and reserve. Respecting the weak and feeble is still considered a virtue for the most part. Nobody's gonna scare little kids if they can help it. But it's nice to not have to worry about a quick innocuous flash of iron turning into another Ruby Ridge. Little doubt that this will be a non issue save for the odd Godless yankee or ill bred spermatoid wandering around tryin to prove something.

As far as "no firearms allowed" signage. Seems like that's a parking lot I'd cruise if I was shopping for a new throwdown piece. I'd find somewhere else to shop. I figure many others would too.

[Volron]

A question: Are there not exceptions in regards to a posted "no weapon on premises"?  It is to my understanding (which may very well be incorrect) that a federal agent is to have their weapon on their persons at all times (IE: FBI, NSA, etc).

[PR3D4TOR]

Predator: Morally, yes.

Do you feel he should also be able to use his stack of legally purchased explosives?  How about in an urban area?  If not, why not?

Wiley.

I have made a personal choice to never blame a person for saving his own life regardless of the consequences, but this discussion has moved so far into the absurd that I think you'll have to ask someone else.

[PR3D4TOR]

what if the Mexican. bandits have water pistols? 


semp

Depends... Do they have those orange caps/muzzles? Do they look real. Are the Mexican bandits the size of children?