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Offline Spitter

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'Real' dogfighting.
« on: June 21, 2015, 04:34:33 PM »
So my buddy and I are finally going to do the http://www.fightercombat.com/ weekend combat program, next April, for our birthdays.

I want to win.....  :grin:

So, I believe both fights start with a merge, passing on the left, then fight on. Hardware: We will both be flying Extra 300 aircraft.

I am thinking Split S to get in his blind spot as quickly as possible, but if he's pulling hard either left or right, I doubt I will 'disappear' before he, or his spotter, gets eyeballs on me.

Thoughts and recommendations? I've done very little 1v1 dueling. Links to videos will be appreciated. Also, if I can get AH2 to run on my system, would anyone be willing to do the direct link thing, since I currently don't have an AH subscription (I do plan to remedy that when I get some new hardware).

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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 05:16:04 PM »
Always go up  :cheers:
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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2015, 05:34:58 PM »
HO then run to the ack  :aok

Oh and if he wins, dont forget to get on the radio and call him a cable puller and how real planes cant turn like that  :D
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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 05:45:16 PM »

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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 05:45:46 PM »
I want to win.....  :grin:

I am thinking Split S

 :rofl

Couldn't resist. :D

Forget about blind spots, it's just you and him. Focus on position and energy. It won't matter if he can see you or not if you stall trying to catch him.
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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2015, 05:52:29 PM »
Blind spots arent blind that long in a plane than roll at 400deg/sec...
I would say that since u prob will be unfamiliar with the aicrafts the outcome will be determinated by hwo of u that can control the plane best, neither one of u will prob be able to use the planes full capability so it is not all about using the right tactic.

But one tip is to use the incredible roll rate to mess up his "shot" if he gets on your 6.
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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2015, 06:47:18 PM »
In b4 collision model complaints.

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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2015, 07:47:43 PM »
In b4 collision model complaints.

Also worth mentioning: Since there will be no net lag u wont have any problem with the collision model...
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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2015, 08:10:09 PM »
Co Alt, Co E with the same aircraft....it's down to who makes the fewest mistakes. I'd definitely go for an energy advantage, especially if your friend is less versed in ACM.


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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2015, 08:40:00 PM »
I wouldnt have bothered too much about tactic etc. First of all its very hard  to make up a strategy prior to the "fight" that really works and most of all: If i were u my main goal was to have fun, if u are too much focused on getting "kills" and trying to BnZ your friend u will ruin much of the fun.
My tips is that u should just engange in a turn fight and trying to win by learning to fly closer to the stall than your friend.
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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2015, 10:20:24 PM »
Good choice for first move is an Immelman or steep high yo yo.

Plan on everything you know working in AH (other than weird accelerated-stall moves) to work the same way in the real dogfight.  That was my experience at Air Combat USA in Marchetti SF-260's.

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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2015, 12:00:27 AM »
Things not to try:

1. Cutting your engine.

2. HO shot on the first merge.

3. Running to the ack.

4. Running to the CV.

5. Vulching your friend on the runway.

6. The Latrobe Tail Slide.

7. Streaming porn in the background to affect your ping rates.

8. Dropping your gear.

9. Accusing your opponent of hacking on Channel 200.

10. Complaining to HiTech after you lose.


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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2015, 12:07:10 AM »
practice vomiting
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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2015, 12:35:09 AM »
practice vomiting

Yeah, that's gonna be critical, especially negative g.


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Re: 'Real' dogfighting.
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2015, 01:04:56 AM »
Good luck man that is a dream of mine!
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