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Offline Karnak

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Re: New Planes
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2015, 11:02:17 AM »
I said nothing of advantage.

I've been flying both for over 10 years.

Do we really need another 4x cannon monster late war plane with crazy power to weight ratio in the arena?

That said, I would love to see the KI44.
Ah.

Well, from a representative standpoint it should clearly be the J2M3 as it by far had the highest production total.

Having the J2M2 just to avoid having a four cannon aircraft that was a four cannon aircraft is, bluntly, silly.
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2015, 11:20:20 AM »
D.520!!!

Hitech said he would not waste time modeling that insignificant French bug smasher.  :old:
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2015, 01:05:40 PM »
Fa 223
Fw 189
Pe 8
IAR 80
Ki 44
190A3
109G10
109G-14/As
Spit XII
Typhoon Ia
All would be at least competitive in the MA.
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2015, 07:13:06 PM »
Seafire III.

Please.
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2015, 07:44:54 PM »
Piper J-3 w bazookas...
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2015, 07:48:44 PM »
Fa 223
Fw 189
Pe 8
IAR 80
Ki 44
190A3
109G10
109G-14/As
Spit XII
Typhoon Ia
All would be at least competitive in the MA.
Typhoon Ia would certainly not be competitive.  Also was a complete non-factor in the war, less even than the Ta152.
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2015, 08:15:13 PM »
P-61
F6F-5N  20mm's anyone?
Maybe a night arena lol
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2015, 11:47:54 PM »
Piper J-3 w bazookas...

a storch with AT weapons  :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

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Re: New Planes
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2015, 09:28:29 AM »
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2015, 12:44:43 PM »
Dat jugs bro.

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Re: New Planes
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2015, 02:42:44 PM »
Typhoon Ia would certainly not be competitive.  Also was a complete non-factor in the war, less even than the Ta152.

Competitive in the same sense that the 109G-6, or the D11, or the Mossie can be competitive. They need a chance, but given a chance, they can be dangerous. The primary only weakness would be the guns.
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2015, 02:49:47 PM »
Competitive in the same sense that the 109G-6, or the D11, or the Mossie can be competitive. They need a chance, but given a chance, they can be dangerous. The primary only weakness would be the guns.
Not remotely as competitive as those. Last I checked all of those maintain positive kill/death ratios, something I highly doubt the Tiffie Ia would do. Anything that maintains a positive kill/death ratio is either good or favored by a small group of elites who distort its numbers.  .303s require you to stick to your target, not something the Tiffie is good for.  All three of the aircraft you mentioned have good to great firepower, and in the case of the Bf109 good handling as well.  Firepower matters.  I remember more than a decade ago Citibria, IIRC, trying to use each fighter then in inventory and maintain a 5+kill/death ratio with it.  The only one he could not do so in, and it wasn't even close, was the C.202 as it just didn't have enough firepower.  This was before the Spit I and Hurri I were added.

I am not saying it wouldn't get kills. I've bagged two single engined fighters and one twin engined fighter just using the four .303s on the Mossie, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it.  Nothing using just .303s is competitive.

The other problem with the Typhoon Mk Ia is that it wasn't used because the Hispanos didn't fail.  It was merely planned as a backup in case the Hispano cannons proved to be non-viable air-to-air weapons.
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2015, 08:09:38 AM »
I'm still waiting for a jeep with a recoilless rifle.

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Re: New Planes
« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2015, 11:25:25 AM »
IL-2 with PTAB anti-tank bombs would be nicer...

Based on my observations of the last 16 years of everyone beeeoching missing plane sets...we need:

Britain
a) Beaufighter
b) Vickers Wellington
c) Avro Anson

Japan
Ki-27
Ki-46
Ki-45

Germany
Do-17(for SEA/AvA)
Do-217
He-219
Ju-52 (for SEA/AvA)

Italy
CR.42
G.50/55
Re.2000-2005

USA
Nutten. And shaaadup about it already...it's not like you have 5 variants of the Jug, or 5 of the Corsair. And stop asking for the P-61. Just take up a light B-26.

The list is also made from high production numbers and actual combat effectiveness. Meaning it's no Lochness monster...pilots saw it, flew it, fought in it for longer than a month.

And of course, player controllable Destroyers and Submarines would just top it right off. :x
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Re: New Planes
« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2015, 11:30:17 AM »
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IAR 80

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