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Offline Drane

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V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« on: July 02, 2015, 02:44:15 AM »
Would like to request V-1 Buzzbombs be enabled at base field gun arsenals in late war arena. Each base could have multiple launch sites fired one at a time (player control similar to shore battery).

V-1 could also to be included as a weapon available for HE-111H.





Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_flying_bomb

Feel free to improve on this wish if you can think of better ways to accomplish anything.

Approximately 11,969 V-1s were launched between June, 1944 and March, 1945.

Approximately 1,176 were launched from HE-111s.

Each base could have multiple ground launch sites under it's control.

Each ground launch site could be fired at a rate of ~1 every 2 hours in practice. Launch rate in-game would automatically be adjusted with the time scale of the arena.

The V-1 flew at ~3600 ft altitude above sea level and at ~340 mph.

Targeting could be similar to gun systems already in use. Targets that have obstacles (terrain, range of V-1, etc) between launch sight and target would not be selectable.

Planes should have the ability to "topple", or tip over, the buzzbombs as in WWII.

V-1 icons should be visible to players from ______ distance?

Possibility - When players launch a V-1 , they will be able to fly it within a very limited operational flight envelope to steer left or right around obstacles. Or the "in-game" V-1 guidance system could have similar function.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2015, 03:36:21 AM by Drane »
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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2015, 02:51:22 AM »
+1 This would be pretty damn cool and awesome. Would add a whole new threat and layer to the game.

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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2015, 05:44:40 AM »
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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2015, 12:38:50 PM »
And what do u plan to hit? Accuracy would be nil, it would take a huge amount of rockets to do any significant damage to anything.
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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2015, 01:25:51 PM »
And what do u plan to hit? Accuracy would be nil, it would take a huge amount of rockets to do any significant damage to anything.

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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2015, 02:18:13 PM »
We dont have any tagets of the size of London. It would be har to make them land on a base, and even harder to hit anything.
Unless u are gonna allow players to fire hundreds of rockets it will be a pretty useless feature.
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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2015, 03:36:56 PM »
About 20-25% hit something. With a range of about 145 miles you could hit factories, towns, cities, etc. It carried about a 2000 lb bomb.

Found another reference web page with specifications. Looks like at around 3500 ft altitude the speed would be closer to 400 mph.

http://www.zenza.se/vw/

Typical HE-111 mission would be noe below radar, then rise to about 1500 ft altitude to launch, then drop back to noe for return.
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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2015, 06:01:27 PM »
+1 : would add a feature other AH-like games dont have. :rock

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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2015, 06:21:27 PM »
-1 No, Absolutely not.

We do not need another way for any more players to avoid a fight or to interact in any way when they cannot be shot down themselves.

This is a horrible idea.
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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2015, 06:23:14 PM »
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Because considering the size of potential targets in AH, the V1's precisions would have to be tweaked to pure fantasy levels to make it a worthwile addition.
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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2015, 07:21:31 PM »
This should be something reserved for scenarios. A while back we simulated V-1's by having manned ME 163's suicide into city targets. There were restrictions in order to simulate this effectively (speed limit, alt limit and you had to have film of yourself hitting the target if I recall). It was a lot of fun and more in keeping with how the V-1's were used. Having a missile in this game would not add much and unless you had a Tempest constantly patrolling your air bases there would be no way to stop it, nor much motivation to try.


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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2015, 08:07:14 PM »
Hey man, for some of us it's a dream target. Flying straight and level, no nasty tail guns for when I'm approaching, no nasty forward-facing cannon for when I overshoot.

Though I suppose I'd still just crash into it.
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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2015, 09:16:27 PM »
Because considering the size of potential targets in AH, the V1's precisions would have to be tweaked to pure fantasy levels to make it a worthwile addition.


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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2015, 09:21:55 PM »
Never knew the Germans had the first ALCM. Neato.
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Re: V-1 Buzzbombs launched from bases and HE-111s
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2015, 04:27:09 PM »
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Because considering the size of potential targets in AH, the V1's precisions would have to be tweaked to pure fantasy levels to make it a worthwile addition.

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A V1 needs a target in the size of London to be effective at all.

About 20-25% hit something. With a range of about 145 miles you could hit factories, towns, cities, etc. It carried about a 2000 lb bomb.

Found another reference web page with specifications. Looks like at around 3500 ft altitude the speed would be closer to 400 mph.

http://www.zenza.se/vw/

Typical HE-111 mission would be noe below radar, then rise to about 1500 ft altitude to launch, then drop back to noe for return.

Again: they even had a hard time to hit London. A target like a factory would be nearly impossible to hit. Even without countermeassures not more than 50% hit London, u can be lucky if the V1 land within 10km of the intended target....
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