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Offline JOACH1M

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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2015, 12:10:00 AM »
The 14 I find very hard to make accurate shots with. I don't struggle with aiming in any other plane more than the spit14. It's not a terrible dogfighter, just have to fly it like a yak or typhoon. People expect it to be like the other spitfires, but it's not. This is a extremely high performance interceptor.

The right hand spiral climb is not a good tactic in this place, the torque will over take you and you will cross control the plane into such a slow speed it will stall. Make a left hand spiral and let the plane fall to the right in the stall. Much more control able.
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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2015, 02:40:51 AM »
That plane is amazing if you fly it right. treat it like a 51. fast and low angle turns its great at roping too
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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2015, 02:48:40 AM »
I love the power of the Spit 14! It's so unlike the other spitfires. The only reason I don't fly it more often is because it is a Spit amd I lost a lot of my affection for the spitfires after I found the 109F4  :D

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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2015, 04:12:52 AM »
The XIV evolved into the Spiteful and maybe the Griffin was a bit too much for the spit airframe to handle. But as i said, i belive its a good substitute to the K-4 if u accept that its not a TnB spit.
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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2015, 09:02:39 AM »
Always burn the fuel out of wing tanks before engaging in combat. That is part of why you pull the wings off or cannot pull out of a dive.

Fuel in the wing tanks should if anything make the wings less likely to rip off - weight outboard reduces wing bending moment during flight, although it may reduce maneuverability or handling characteristics due to roll inertia and/or center of gravity issues.

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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2015, 02:28:53 PM »
Spit XIV is the most dangerous spit to a Moquito. I target them with high priority togeter with the La7s - except that it is hard to tell it is a 14 till you are very close. The acceleration of that thing is so high that it is very difficult to escape from it, even in a faster plane. The climb rate is insane and if you look away from the 14 for a few seconds, you suddenly find it co-E with you - kind of like the Yak3.

It really should have gotten a new name - it is nothing like the Merlin Spits and the vast majorityof players have no idea how to fly it. Unlike the Merlin Spits that are "start and go", this one has many ins and outs and quircky features that are typical of planes with too powerful engine for their frame. It does take a higher degree of skill to fly well, but has much more potential than the other spits. Also, it still turns pretty well inspite of what others may say. In this case, WEPing while the stall horn is on is not always the best way to go - sometimes it needs to reduced power in order to keep it in control, and it has plenty of power to spare.

The real problem with the 14 is that every time I think of taking one, it is ENY locked.
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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2015, 02:42:01 PM »
I tried it a few times today and I've noticed that it's harder to slow down and get a tracking shot. The plane feels more unstable at slower speeds. That and as others have said it tends to be hard to steady up for a shot at high speeds as well. Love the power and the climb rate but it really is better at BnZ or slashing. I'd love to hear more opinions on how to fly it as it does seem to be an interesting ride.


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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2015, 02:48:24 PM »
Spit XIV is the most dangerous spit to a Moquito.


I just noticed I haven't done a chart for a long time  :D


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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2015, 02:49:24 PM »
Years ago a guy named Machfly was pretty good in that ol girl.


So was Viperious of The Few. :) I seen him reverse 7 cons 3 times in the same sortie in that squeak lol
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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2015, 03:07:18 PM »
I have fought spit14 while in a spit8 and the reverse. Fighting a spi14 using a spit8 is fun because most players try to fly the spit14 like a spit. I either shoot it down or have the fun of watching the spit14 auger.

Fighting and defeating spit8s with a spit14 is not fun and time consuming if you are not picking the spit8. Especially if you make the spit14 fly like a spit8 to keep the squirrely sucker from going home. Or, you get caught on the deck by the spit8. You can fly the spit14 like a spit8 and defeat the spit8. You can do this all the way down to spit9s. It's absolutely no fun.

It's more efficient to fly the spit14 like a hybrid P51B\spit8. If you gauge this by your fuel, as your fuel reduces you can transition more into flying like a spit8.

I used to snap the wings off spit14s until I made sure I emptied the wing tanks before executing any high G maneuvering.
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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2015, 04:59:20 PM »
Fuel in the wing tanks should if anything make the wings less likely to rip off - weight outboard reduces wing bending moment during flight, although it may reduce maneuverability or handling characteristics due to roll inertia and/or center of gravity issues.

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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2015, 11:47:07 PM »
I love the spitty 14  :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2015, 11:53:31 PM »

I just noticed I haven't done a chart for a long time  :D


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First thing to notice is that spits have k/d < 1 against the mossie except the spit 16 which is very close to 1. This proves that the mossie is a better Fighter than spitfires and is equal to the dreaded Spit16 - statistics don't lie   :D

Spit 14 actual threat is far below its potential, just like the La7s. The problem is that in order to tell whether the player in them has any clue, I have to get close enough to start a scrap and then, escaping these two is very difficult. So I just target them with a priority and usually find out they really don't have a clue, so I get away with it.
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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2015, 01:45:27 AM »
First thing to notice is that spits have k/d < 1 against the mossie except the spit 16 which is very close to 1. This proves that the mossie is a better Fighter than spitfires and is equal to the dreaded Spit16 - statistics don't lie   :D

Spit 14 actual threat is far below its potential, just like the La7s. The problem is that in order to tell whether the player in them has any clue, I have to get close enough to start a scrap and then, escaping these two is very difficult. So I just target them with a priority and usually find out they really don't have a clue, so I get away with it.

Not the K4, or the G14 or the Spit 16, though? If acceleration is what gets you, they're right up there with the La and Spit 14. Certainly far ahead of the Mossie.
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Re: Why not Spit XIV?
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2015, 02:23:49 AM »

    The Spit 14 is a monster ! I've chased down pony's with ease. Made P38's with alt/speed advantage cry cheat. Poor Ruaml had a fit when I out climbed his LA and picked him to pieces at the top of his loop... But if you get slow with her, you're doomed ! she'll stall without warning, She'll roll you over into the ground in an instant. and if you do get into a spin (wich is very common) you better have atleast 10k to pull her out of it !  Fly it like a Pony that climbs and accelerates really well.
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