Aces High III new compter recommendations

[Skuzzy]

The added RAM of the Titan will be of no benefit.  Anything with over 2GB of video RAM is going to overkill, right now.  That does not mean it can change.  HiTech is not done yet.

Be careful.  It is not just about the RAM.  An NVidia *20 with 1GB of video RAM will run badly just because the GPU is horribly inefficient/slow.

[Gman]

Rgr, thanks for the info/clarification Skuzzy.  Is this the case for UHD resolutions as well?  I read that 6gp was recommended for UHD resolutions, will 12 make any difference in that case?  I have the Titan, just trying to decide if I should swap it into a new build or buy a 980ti for it, as it's primarily going to be for AH.

[Skuzzy]

Rgr, thanks for the info/clarification Skuzzy.  Is this the case for UHD resolutions as well?  I read that 6gp was recommended for UHD resolutions, will 12 make any difference in that case?  I have the Titan, just trying to decide if I should swap it into a new build or buy a 980ti for it, as it's primarily going to be for AH.

4GB to 6GB should be plenty for UHD.  Once you get passed that, the GPU can start being the bottleneck.  I am not convinced this generation of video card is really ready for UHD.  The only reason they can play it right now is the gaming industry has not made a complete switch to 4K textures, for everything. 

The industry seems to be chasing its tail, at the moment.  The current crop of UHD capable video cards is that way due to the games not making extensive use of the large format textures which are needed to really show off that UHD resolution.  Yet, if they were here today, the GPU's would run out of performance before they ran out of RAM.  It is a bit of a quagmire for the bleeding edge enthusiast.

[Gman]

Ok thanks again.

That's pretty much how I'm left feeling.  I'm not sure what Chalenge feels/thinks, but it's probably a similar attitude, as I know he's one of the other AH members who uses UHD.  I've got a 4k and probably the best 1440p monitor, but find the whole experience of UHD in many games so far...I don't know, lacking I guess.  I'm still going to stay near the tip of the spear though, and plan on trying to run max including environmental with the new version once it gets into beta/etc a lot more.

[Chalenge]

I think it's still a lag filled experience on a single card and that having to overclock to make things better is an indication that it's just too soon. The only way to make this viable is for every device in your system to be a peak performer, meaning $900 RAM (3000MHz), 2 x $1k video cards (Titan Z SLI), top of the line processor (or e5 if you're just crazy), and even NAS HDDs (because wasting SSD space on games is also crazy). Once you do all that you get hit in the face with just a handful of games to showcase the expense, so what have you really accomplished?

I'm hoping this fall there will be cheaper UHD monitors and next Spring will bring new hardware.

[Bellator]

Well, this is what I came up with. I just need to decide on a good CPU Cooler.
Any comments or suggestion are welcome.

   
OS System   Item#: N82E16832116992   $139.00
   Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM   
      
Case   Item#: N82E16811139015     $109.00
   Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case   
      
PSU   Item#: N82E16817139011    $149.00
   CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply     
      
CPU   Item#:  N82E16819117369   $340.00
   Intel Core i7-4790K Devil’s Canyon Quad-Core 4.0 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I74790K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4600                                   
      
Mother Board   Item#: N82E16813131976    $270.00
   ASUS SABERTOOTH Z87 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard   
      
Hard Drive   Item#: N82E16822236244   $129.99
   Western Digital WD VelociRaptor WD5000HHTZ 500GB 10000 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive - OEM   
      
CD / DVD    Item#: N82E16827135240   $27.99
   ASUS DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS    
      
Memory   Item#: N82E16820233237   $250.00
   CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10    
      
Video Card   Item#: N82E16814121978   $209.00
   ASUS Radeon R9 380 STRIX-R9380-DC2OC-4GD5-GAMING 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card   
                                                                                    Total--   $1,623.98

[Masherbrum]

Many of us do not have the time for a build our own "do it yourself system."    I am looking for a link to a site we can purchase a computer that possible meets the new AHIII standards.

Digital Storm

[hgtonyvi]

A better way to say it.  If you want to run with full environment mapping and still maintain good frame rates, then the NVidia 980 Ti is what you are going to want to get.  The 970 will struggle.

That one feature is the most intense graphic feature any video card can do. 

All the other graphic features can be done with much slower video cards and done quite well.  Kicking the environment mapping slider to 1, or None will usually give a great boost in performance.

If hitech plays with a 660 card. Why would a 970 card struggle? The comp I purchased has a 970 card

[Skuzzy]

HiTech uses a video card which better serves to represent performance levels needed by the code.

In other words, A 970 or 980 card could masked performance issues a slower card would show.  Not the best circumstance when you want to optimize your code.

[Bizman]

I suppose your question was on the last line of the quote, since Skuzzy's original post didn't include that line.

If hitech plays with a 660 card. Why would a 970 card struggle? The comp I purchased has a 970 card

Simple answer: He doesn't play with all features maxxed. There's a reason for that: Using a mediocre system for development he sets himself in the shoes of average Joe's, the majority of the clientele. An affordable system automatically sets the limits for an enjoyable playing experience. That enables the less equipped to play at a tolerable level, yet allowing the gear enthusiasts enjoy their toys. Errmh... Hope I didn't express myself in too a complicated way.

[Edit] And again, Skuzzy was faster than me... [/edit]