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Offline Mr No Name

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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #165 on: August 10, 2015, 06:46:41 PM »
We can still respectfully disagree.  I don't have to divorce myself from hard, unchanging facts to stand my ground.  Sometimes the truth hurts when you run afoul of it.  Allowing others to live in denial of simple biological and psychological facts is harmful to the person you allow to live in a state of altered reality - as well as society at large - just because you don't want to offend them.
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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #166 on: August 10, 2015, 07:01:11 PM »
If they are considering mutilating their body, denying the facts that even their chromosomes scream out, that person is no longer sentient and in touch with reality.

Sorry man we're just going to have to agree to disagree.  While I would never even remotely consider doing that I would not condemn someone for making that choice.  I'll let you into my world a little bit.  My son asks me a lot about his big decisions and my response is always 'you're a grown man. Do what you think is best for YOU'  'If you feel that way then go for it'.  Thus far it has had nothing to do with his sexuality and I used to joke that if he came to me and said 'dad I'm a homosexual' I'd shoot him and swear he was defective.  But I've grown up.  It is NOT my place to shove my beliefs down anybody elses throats.  It is MY job to live my life in accordance with my moral code.  Shunning people for beliefs that are different from yours simply alienates them and causes groups to polarize against each other instead of trying to find a way to peacefully coexist.

Now I can't play this game anymore and that sucks.  But we're all brought together playing a video game that interests us.  This game is about 'killing' the other guy.  But, to me at least, and more importantly it brings people from all over the world with different perspectives together and, for the most part, we get along. 

To be frank I'd rather have a gay or transgender friend I can trust than a heterosexual one I can't.  I take people for who they are and how they act not for their sexual preferences.  The funny thing is we've taken this from a post or two about a young man that has had two transgender partners to divvying up the lines between 'gay' or 'straight'. 

I could give a R#% F#%@ less if Serenity is gay or straight.  It's not my business.  The way I see a man is how he acts in society.  Is he respectful?  Does he pay his bills on time? Is he kind to the weak and needy? Does he act with honor and kindness?

I'll tell you this and I'll stand by it.  I've seen this young man step on his crank more than once and accept what was thrown at him.  Anybody on any social media site is going to step on their crank occasionally.  I haven't seen many that could take the bashing that he has done, learned from it, and moved on with lessons learned. 

So I could give a d#%N less what he does or does not do in his personal life and I can assure you I'd invite him to stop by and crash at my place for a weekend or so a heck of a lot faster than I would some pious, judgmental, jerk, who thinks his or her vision of 'morality' is superior. 

I'm not God.  It's not my job to 'judge' anybody and, in 51 years of my life on this earth, I've never so much as received an application for the position from God.  So I'm figuring he's got that covered. 

Subsequently I fall back on 'do unto others as you would have done unto you'.  I've made a lot of mistakes in my life and some of them are heinous.  Yet my TRUE friends both straight, gay, religious, and atheists, have been there for me when I ran face first into a wall. 

My rant will not change your mind and I accept that but I hope we can depart this conversation with mutual respect.



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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #167 on: August 10, 2015, 07:08:41 PM »
Sometimes the truth hurts when you run afoul of it.  Allowing others to live in denial of simple biological and psychological facts is harmful to the person you allow to live in a state of altered reality

That's BS    In this instance It's in no way harmful.  And this so called "truth" your speaking of is in no way any type of truth, it's opinion. Yours.
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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #168 on: August 10, 2015, 07:11:06 PM »
This is getting too heavy. 

Time for a song I say:




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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #169 on: August 10, 2015, 07:15:37 PM »
I am certainly not God, his job is to judge, condemn and punish as necessary - not mine.  I can however judge behavior and character.  We do this every day from credit checks to background and reference checks.  If I find someone's behavior abhorrent, I keep myself and family as far away from them as possible.  It is your right and duty to do so.

I, like you, am 51 years old and I DO NOT mistreat anyone, at any time but I also am aware of what I bring in to my own environment or those close to me.  I control that completely.  Just like you, I decide what is and what is not acceptable behavior.
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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #170 on: August 10, 2015, 07:16:26 PM »
That's BS    In this instance It's in no way harmful.  And this so called "truth" your speaking of is in no way any type of truth, it's opinion. Yours.

you can't outrun the facts.
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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #171 on: August 10, 2015, 07:25:17 PM »
Boy, I've lost count of the number of replies I've started to type, only to take a breath an erase them...

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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #172 on: August 10, 2015, 07:29:33 PM »
The only thing I'll say in this thread is, of course it was started by a Navy guy!!  :devil

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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #173 on: August 10, 2015, 07:30:41 PM »
The only thing I'll say in this thread is, of course it was started by a Navy guy!!  :devil

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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #174 on: August 10, 2015, 07:34:33 PM »
you can't outrun the facts.

And what are these so called facts you have that relate to this specific discussion

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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #175 on: August 10, 2015, 07:35:46 PM »
What does an XY chromosome indicate?

years ago, in california they tried to pass a law saying that sex should be based on xx/xy only.  then somebody asked them what about the exceptions?

you do know there's males with xx chromosomes and females with xy chromosomes?  I guess a higher power either he messed up or did it on purpose.

just google Androgen insensitivity syndrome


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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #176 on: August 10, 2015, 07:36:34 PM »
you can't outrun the facts.

the only fact is that you dont even know the facts.


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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #177 on: August 10, 2015, 07:37:54 PM »
Ranger, you know I'm ex navy right??? I may have to come and see ya now, I'm thinking steak and beer!!

Serenity, I hope your really happy - sod what anyone else thinks, as long as your happy, good on ya!!!
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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #178 on: August 10, 2015, 07:42:57 PM »
Agree with Changeup - while it must have taken courage, it's also a bad idea.  I agree with him and his reasons, but have another one I've been thinking about.

Three of the candidates in the debates the other night said if they won they would use executive action, one of the leaders in the polls said "on day one of his presidency", to "UNDO" all of what they considered to be "illegal actions" performed by the government under the current administration.  What if that includes don't ask don't tell?  I realize it stands as a stretch to think that it could be put back into that box, but in these times, NOTHING any politician does would surprise me, nor should it surprise anyone else.  What happens to you then, if DoD says "we're back to don't ask don't tell", but you're already been asked, and you answered?   Cargo planes full of rubber dogdoo out of Hong Kong can't be nearly as fun as Top Gun.

 they said they'd undo all of the illegal eo's. but..........is there a precedent set for that? or an act of congress to allow it? 'cause all eo's take their authority from one of those 2 sources. the illegal ones technically speaking have no authority.
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Re: Warning: Gender bending
« Reply #179 on: August 10, 2015, 07:47:19 PM »
Serenity....  You didn't happen to met her in a club in Soho, did you?