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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #90 on: September 21, 2015, 10:51:02 PM »
How so?

I think he means you would not ha e 2 countries ganging up on one. He does seem that habits have formed and your location on the map defines who will get horded.
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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #91 on: September 22, 2015, 01:40:40 AM »
Thanks.  Might look into that for when I get back from my Africa trip :)

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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #92 on: September 22, 2015, 08:00:21 PM »
Hiya Hawk  :salute. We'll see when the snow flies.

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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #93 on: September 23, 2015, 07:09:43 AM »
As long as we have P-38s fighting P-38s, . . .

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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2015, 08:01:21 AM »
Well the point I was making is with two sides there would be "more" one on one battles then with three sides.

Its pretty easy to comprehend. Imagine if all we had to worry about would be those sneaky Huns in WW2? And all they had to worry about were those Yanks with the cheap hair grease? Instead of spreading the love over several fronts we'd have one big Huzzah of a battle, "which is better then two little beer fart battles".

Kinda like what TT did back when we had two maps the other six days. Hell, anythings better then this. I see three sides on one huge map and just want to cry.

Kind of surprising that HTC isn't taking out the big maps as a stopgap measure.  Even the small maps are too big now. 

I wish we would at least try out a two sided fight.  Use some of the AVA maps but allow both sides to use all planes.  Two sides was tried long ago and HTC didn't like the results, but with these low numbers, it's got to be better at generating fights.  Having only one enemy to fight and much fewer targets increases the likelihood of the two sides meeting, instead of three gangbangs on undefended bases.
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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #95 on: September 23, 2015, 08:36:03 AM »
Kind of surprising that HTC isn't taking out the big maps as a stopgap measure.  Even the small maps are too big now. 

I wish we would at least try out a two sided fight.  Use some of the AVA maps but allow both sides to use all planes.  Two sides was tried long ago and HTC didn't like the results, but with these low numbers, it's got to be better at generating fights.  Having only one enemy to fight and much fewer targets increases the likelihood of the two sides meeting, instead of three gangbangs on undefended bases.

The only thing that will help to generate fights is if the players that play the game actually want to fight.
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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #96 on: September 23, 2015, 08:53:13 AM »
The only thing that will help to generate fights is if the players that play the game actually want to fight.


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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #97 on: September 23, 2015, 09:23:14 AM »
Kind of surprising that HTC isn't taking out the big maps as a stopgap measure.  Even the small maps are too big now. 

I wish we would at least try out a two sided fight.  Use some of the AVA maps but allow both sides to use all planes.  Two sides was tried long ago and HTC didn't like the results, but with these low numbers, it's got to be better at generating fights.  Having only one enemy to fight and much fewer targets increases the likelihood of the two sides meeting, instead of three gangbangs on undefended bases.

3 sides is fine, but what really needs to happen is the closing off of bases futher back in the map, so only most of the front bases and the bases directly behind it are open to fight, until #s expand to a certain point, then those other bases will open. This will keep the players with low #s coupled in a smaller area, there by making the fights easier to come by and easier to find. I think it would solve a majoirty of issues regarding game play and excitement level during the off hours.
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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #98 on: September 23, 2015, 09:32:33 AM »
instead of three gangbangs on undefended bases.

Sounds like the problem is with the players.  If your base is undefended then form a fighter sweep mission with the other players on your team. Fun fun.  :old:

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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #99 on: September 23, 2015, 09:35:36 AM »
3 sides is fine, but what really needs to happen is the closing off of bases futher back in the map, so only most of the front bases and the bases directly behind it are open to fight, until #s expand to a certain point, then those other bases will open.


This new feature would require some very fundamental coding of the game. That's nothing you can just throw in. Totally unlike eleminating the 3 large maps (which usually make up the major part of a tour) from rotation. Like Caldera, I can't really figure why this has not happened that. We had extended times in AH without any large maps. Keep in mind they were introduced to AH at a time when the population as about twice as large and (unlike today) still growing.
They were also taken out when the LW arena was split up.
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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #100 on: September 23, 2015, 09:39:48 AM »
Sounds like the problem is with the players.  If your base is undefended then form a fighter sweep mission with the other players on your team. Fun fun.  :old:

Fighter sweep with whom & to where when there's only 8-15 players on each team total.

The mantra "it's the players" doesn't help. You can't change the behaviour of people as a group by appeal. "Everyone should just..." generally does not not work, as we are individuals.
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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #101 on: September 23, 2015, 09:55:32 AM »
Fighter sweep with whom & to where when there's only 8-15 players on each team total.

The mantra "it's the players" doesn't help. You can't change the behaviour of people as a group by appeal. "Everyone should just..." generally does not not work, as we are individuals.
That's where rules, mechanisms and gameplay design comes into play.

So true, staged missions in the main arena, hmm gonna need a mind to figure that out.

I remember reading on a HTC page when I first started. "Please do not attack a undefended field.". I guess that was written when numbers were lower.  The entire system depends on the players. The players, the players.

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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #102 on: September 23, 2015, 10:51:50 AM »

This new feature would require some very fundamental coding of the game. That's nothing you can just throw in. Totally unlike eleminating the 3 large maps (which usually make up the major part of a tour) from rotation. Like Caldera, I can't really figure why this has not happened that. We had extended times in AH without any large maps. Keep in mind they were introduced to AH at a time when the population as about twice as large and (unlike today) still growing.
They were also taken out when the LW arena was split up.

Yeah the coding to doing that would be the side of the arguement I have no clue over. 

I would for sure like to see smaller maps, also in correlation with closer bases. There is a lot of potential out there to put some fine maps in the game, right now, the current ones have been getting pretty old. Especially the Pig map, it always last all week. I'm sure Hitech has new map ideas and what not so just gotta be patient.
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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #103 on: September 23, 2015, 12:20:54 PM »

Totally unlike eleminating the 3 large maps (which usually make up the major part of a tour) from rotation. Like Caldera, I can't really figure why this has not happened that.

Eliminating Crater MA from the rotation would benefit you, but how would the 25% who play mainly GVs like losing Crater's tank area?

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Re: Yo you going to let this game die or what?
« Reply #104 on: September 23, 2015, 12:43:14 PM »
I keep hoping they can write a program that automatically weathered-in bases on number of players in the game.  That way the weather could offer different play areas of the map.

Might be impossible  with their limited resources but it would be neat.