How or Why we will reverse global warming

[morfiend]

Those socialist ideas can be good on paper, the problem is and always has been the people.  Leaders get greedy and workers get lazy. 

  The biggest problem is that some are more "equal" than others!


 Look at the old USSR,some 10 to 15% of the land produced the most crops,why?  Because that was the land allotted to the farmers for their own use.

  This was the way it was,crops lay wasting in the fields because there was no incentive to harvast them,but the farmers own allotments were producing more and were harvested on time because it was for the farmers own use!


   As I said some are more equal than others..... hmm sound an awful lot like capitalism doesnt it?  2 side of the same coin!


   

[Brooke]

If you are falling prey to warming alarmist group think, here's something to add perspective:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-lets-celebrate-co2/

The most-concise summary of it I can manage:  Mankind's generation of CO2 is a vitally good thing.  Without it, nearly all life on earth would cease to exist at the bottom of one of the next ice ages.

[Chris79]

The truth will stand stoically upon its own merit, a lie requires eternal vigilance to prevent it from collapsing under its own weight.

[oboe]

If you are falling prey to warming alarmist group think, here's something to add perspective:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-lets-celebrate-co2/

The most-concise summary of it I can manage:  Mankind's generation of CO2 is a vitally good thing.  Without it, nearly all life on earth would cease to exist at the bottom of one of the next ice ages.

This doesn't make sense to me.  Mankind's generation of CO2 certainly was neglible at the bottom of the last Ice Age.  If it is so vitally good, how did Life survive the last Ice Age?

Also I thought the manmade CO2 emissions were a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of CO2 released by natural processes such as volcanism? 

[Brooke]

This doesn't make sense to me.  Mankind's generation of CO2 certainly was neglible at the bottom of the last Ice Age.  If it is so vitally good, how did Life survive the last Ice Age?

Also I thought the manmade CO2 emissions were a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of CO2 released by natural processes such as volcanism?

According to the article:

CO2 is constantly being sequestered by various processes.  If it doesn't get re-liberated, life on earth eventually has a big problem.  Volcanoes do release CO2, but global warming folks have claimed (rightly or wrongly) that man caused CO2 to go from about 200 ppm to 400 ppm.  Under 150 ppm, and life is in trouble, so the extra 200 ppm is vital given that it got to 180 ppm in one of the last ice ages.

[Chalenge]

There is no link between carbon quantities and heat vectors that has ever been demonstrated. You might as well say the temperature is rising because there are fewer great actors in the world.

[NatCigg]

https://www.nasa.gov/press/goddard/2014/november/nasa-computer-model-provides-a-new-portrait-of-carbon-dioxide/#.ViBX55c-J-I

a nice visual of co2 in the air. notice how much it decreases in the summer.

we have talked about the importance of co2. it take 6 co2 molecules to make one glucose molecule. this is the beginning of the food chain for almost all life on earth. mercury in energy efficient light bulbs is not necessary for life. lithium batteries are not needed for life. the latter two are pollutants that can kill life.

[Zimme83]

Carbon dioxide is also very good att killing people.
Edit: And you also have to concider all the other particles that are created when combusting carbohydrates.

Best reason for droping carbohydrates imo is that we get rid of combustion engines, it would be so much more awesome to have an electric car powered by a solar panel skin. Now we just pay a lot of money for fuel and then use 80% of it to make heat for the radiator...

[eagl]

Carbon dioxide is also very good att killing people.

So is water, and you are FAR more likely to find yourself in a situation with too much water (ie. drowning) than in a situation with too much carbon dioxide.

[Zimme83]

So is water, and you are FAR more likely to find yourself in a situation with too much water (ie. drowning) than in a situation with too much carbon dioxide.

True. Ban water.

[NatCigg]

Carbon dioxide is also very good att killing people.
Edit: And you also have to concider all the other particles that are created when combusting carbohydrates.

Best reason for droping carbohydrates imo is that we get rid of combustion engines, it would be so much more awesome to have an electric car powered by a solar panel skin. Now we just pay a lot of money for fuel and then use 80% of it to make heat for the radiator...

sounds exciting. maybe ride a bike, or electric bike, washing solar panels on a cloudy day sound fruitless.

[Aspen]

"AP - The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen, Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds."
 
From the Washington Post.....November 22, 1922

[NatCigg]

 

[Zimme83]

sounds exciting. maybe ride a bike, or electric bike, washing solar panels on a cloudy day sound fruitless.

Yep. wish there was a way to store electric energy in some way, but we will prob never see such device.

[NatCigg]

where did caz go? we need to get him on this project.