Let's Talk Tracer Rounds

[Scca]

A couple examples I can dig up.

https://youtu.be/eA5p18Piy8o

https://youtu.be/II7pzxJW9xU

They do and they don't look like lasers. In my experience, it really depends on the angle you see them at.

From behind the gun, to me it looks just like a second of light before it disappears, but watching others fire it's like small laser beams. I've  never seen a tracer wobble like some gun cam footage, even after a ricochet. I attribute the wobble effect to the vibration of the guns firing paired with older cameras.

My two cents.

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Those aren't tracers, now THIS is tracers

[38ruk]

Shooting tracer ammo out of my M-14 is really hard to see looking down the sights IMHO. Al thou it wasnt complete darkness ( i could still make out my target ),  people to the left and right said it looked great but i wasnt too impressed from behind the rifle.  Then again my rate of fire is nill compared to any full auto weapon.

[JunkyII]

Those aren't tracers, now THIS is tracers

[bustr]

After the line of tracers was out for some time, the line of small explosions, was that the self destruct for land based HE ammo?

[Kazaa]

After the line of tracers was out for some time, the line of small explosions, was that the self destruct for land based HE ammo?

I read that the 40mm shells which were fired from the bofors would do this at around 3-5sec(?) so it makes perfect sense that this technique would be used in an urban environment where collateral damage is to be kept at a minimum.

... and now to code this in to my model.

[morfiend]

I read that the 40mm shells which were fired from the bofors would do this at around 3-5sec(?) so it makes perfect sense that this technique would be used in an urban environment where collateral damage is to be kept at a minimum.

... and now to code this in to my model.

  Does it mention the type of time delay?  IIRC the Germans used a rotation delayed fuse.  Not that it matters to your model,I was just curious how they got that 3-5 sec delay.


   

[Kazaa]

I have no idea morfiend. Here's the information and source. I've yet to complete my research on the subject matter. The only value I need to know (at this point) is the delay before self detonating, which was easy enough to code into my model. I tell you what, it's absolutely bizarre to see AA rounds explode in mid flight.


http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_4cm-56_mk12.htm

"1) USA produced HE-SD ammunition was set to detonate at 4,000 - 5,000 yards (3,700 - 4,570 m) so as to minimize problems due to "friendly fire."  HE and AP rounds that did not self-destruct were also manufactured."

3,700 / 811ms (projectile velocity) = 4.19 seconds delay minimum.
4,570m / 811ms (projectile velocity) = 5.18 seconds delay maximum.


 

[morfiend]

Do you have this link?


   http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/miltech.htm


 lots of good info,some you may find useful.




   

[Kazaa]

Do you have this link?


   http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/miltech.htm


 lots of good info,some you may find useful.




   

No I did not. Thank you. I'll add this to my list of research materials.

 

[morfiend]

I read there the bofors used the tracer to time the delay!







   

[BuckShot]

Do you have this link?


   http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/miltech.htm


 lots of good info,some you may find useful.




   

Cool site. I just read the article on bullpup rifles. Thanks for posting.

[morfiend]

Cool site. I just read the article on bullpup rifles. Thanks for posting.

  It's a great site,I've lost a few days just read some of the info!

    If you want to learn about guns and ammo it's a goto site for sure!


   

[popeye]

How did the lethality of tracer rounds compare to the other rounds (AP, API, HV, etc.) in the belt?

If I turn "tracers off" in the settings, is there some increase (or decrease) in total lethality?  Provided, of course, that I could still hit something....


kong

[bustr]

In AH the tracer is a light show with no effect on the ballistics or damage points inflicted to your target on or off. You can see this in the offline drone circle by setting all 6 drones to the same fighter. Then fly once tracers on, then once off. Your damage and kill time will be the same in both conditions precluding your ability to aim unless you use the LCG gunnery aid to help.

[RODBUSTR]

 I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ADDRESSED BULLET DROP.  A BULLET LIKE AN ARROW ONLY TRAVELS SO FAR BEFORE GRAVIFY STRARTS TO EFFECT FLIGHT PATH.  THAT DISTANCE OF FLIGHT IS CALLED POINT BLANK.  AFTER THAT  AN ARC HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED TO HIT YOUR MARK.  LIKE A  BALL BEING THROWN.