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Offline Vraciu

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Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« on: November 15, 2015, 10:25:29 AM »
While I like the standardization on the keys for moving, I am not sure I am a fan of one change(?).

In the old version I can zoom in and rotate skins using the mouse.    In the new version I cannot.   Is this a change or an error on my part?

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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2015, 01:29:25 PM »
You need to hold the mouse button down and move to the side at the same time

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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 01:24:39 PM »
You need to hold the mouse button down and move to the side at the same time

I am trying but it isn't doing anything but moving the skin side to side.  I cannot get it to pivot/rotate.

Any chance you can still include the mouse-only options like the old viewer had?   I found it to be pretty intuitive and all I really needed was the SHIFT and CTRL keys to pan and zoom.    It was a good system.

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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 02:23:18 PM »
I am trying but it isn't doing anything but moving the skin side to side.  I cannot get it to pivot/rotate.

Any chance you can still include the mouse-only options like the old viewer had?   I found it to be pretty intuitive and all I really needed was the SHIFT and CTRL keys to pan and zoom.    It was a good system.

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No on the old system.

Moving your mouse while holding right button should pivot and rotate your view.


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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2015, 02:36:50 PM »
No on the old system.

Moving your mouse while holding right button should pivot and rotate your view.


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It isn't doing anything at all.   It works on the old system (2.29 Patch 5) but not on the new one (Alpha).

Is there anything I can provide you that will show why it is not working?

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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 02:54:00 PM »
It isn't doing anything at all.   It works on the old system (2.29 Patch 5) but not on the new one (Alpha).

Is there anything I can provide you that will show why it is not working?

Does it work in the object editor and the terrain editor?

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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 03:22:41 PM »
Does it work in the object editor and the terrain editor?

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Let me check.  Standby one.
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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2015, 11:14:13 AM »
Does it work in the object editor and the terrain editor?

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It works in the Terrain Editor.



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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2015, 11:20:44 AM »
It works in the Terrain Editor.

Scratching my head,(all works perfectly for me just like the TE) maybe you need to click in the display window one time?

Greebo , you have any thoughts? I assume the mouse works as intended for you?

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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2015, 01:03:26 PM »
Scratching my head,(all works perfectly for me just like the TE) maybe you need to click in the display window one time?

Greebo , you have any thoughts? I assume the mouse works as intended for you?

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Totally bizarre.   I have tried clicking and making sure no keys are sticking.    I cannot pivot the image.   Can only zoom in and out with the keys and move it left/right/up/down with the mouse.    :(







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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2015, 01:05:42 PM »
Totally bizarre.   I have tried clicking and making sure no keys are sticking.    I cannot pivot the image.   Can only zoom in and out with the keys and move it left/right/up/down with the mouse.    :(


Now I see what you are doing.

To circle the aircraft move right with the d key, then look more left with the mouse and you will circle the plane.

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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2015, 01:41:54 PM »

Now I see what you are doing.

To circle the aircraft move right with the d key, then look more left with the mouse and you will circle the plane.

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Just to be clear, I am trying to pivot the airplane so I can see its belly.   I can do that with objects in the Terrain Editor with the mouse by clicking the right button and moving the mouse.   But in Skin Viewer all the mouse does is move the object.   It won't pivot/twist/flip.   I get the exact same default view only in a different spot on my screen.


Does that make sense?

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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2015, 01:50:59 PM »
Just to be clear, I am trying to pivot the airplane so I can see its belly.   I can do that with objects in the Terrain Editor with the mouse by clicking the right button and moving the mouse.   But in Skin Viewer all the mouse does is move the object.   It won't pivot/twist/flip.   I get the exact same default view only in a different spot on my screen.


Does that make sense?
Not really.

The mouse is turning your head, not moving the plane. It only looks like the plane is moving. So you need to position yourself with the asdw and then use the mouse to turn your head to the plane.

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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2015, 01:54:28 PM »
Not really.

The mouse is turning your head, not moving the plane. It only looks like the plane is moving. So you need to position yourself with the asdw and then use the mouse to turn your head to the plane.

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Okay just so I am clear...

The terrain editor allows me to move just like the old skin viewer with the mouse.  I can pivot things with the right button on the mouse in the other editor but the skin viewer won't do the same.   Is that right?    This is so not intuitive to me.    Let me try it again.


For clarity here is what I am getting at...
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Re: Skin Viewer - Differences New/Old
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2015, 01:57:40 PM »
Now it is working.  I see what you were getting at.

I appreciate what you are doing but I have to say the old system was way faster and easier to use.   At worse a right click of the mouse should allow you to pivot the object in place.    If you could enable that (or give us a box to click to use the old system) I will buy you a case of Wild Turkey. 

The other editors allow pivoting with the mouse only so that's why I was confused.

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