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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #165 on: December 06, 2015, 12:21:54 AM »
Yes, and I, too, would count all of those on the one side.

On the other side, I would count the 1983 Embassy bombing (63 dead), 1983 Beirut barracks (307 dead), 1984 Embassy bombing (24 dead), Lockerbie airline bombing (178 Americans dead), World Trade Center bombing (6 dead), 9/11 (3000 dead), Ft. Hood (13 dead), and San Bernardino (14 dead).  I left out incidents that "only" had 10 or less dead, and I didn't much check on how many Americans were killed in the rest of the couple hundred Islamic terrorist attacks that have happened around the world since 1980.

Did Christian extremists kill 3600 abortion-clinic people since 1980?  How about 1/3 as much -- 1000?  How about 500?  How about 100?  What about 10?  It's 10 (if you include Robert Dear's recent 3 at Planned Parenthood).

Let's see how many deaths there were from Christian extremists in other areas.  Eric Rudolf murdered a person at the Olympics in addition to two others already counted in the previous paragraph.

I spent about 2-3 times as long looking around for examples of deaths from Christian extremist murders than I did Muslim extremist murders, and the above is what I came up with.  Maybe I missed something, but if not, here's our final tally.

Christian extremism: 11
Muslim extremism:  3600

So, if you are going to use statistics, which is more likely?  Is the difference significant?

If any of you want to double check my numbers or look into things in more detail, here are a few references to get you started:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

if you gonna include the Beirut barracks, why not also include us soldiers killed in Iraq/Afghanistan?


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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #166 on: December 06, 2015, 02:15:20 AM »
if you gonna include the Beirut barracks, why not also include us soldiers killed in Iraq/Afghanistan?


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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #167 on: December 06, 2015, 03:45:53 AM »
Do you get half teacake Brooke doing statistics?

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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #168 on: December 06, 2015, 07:28:14 AM »
Brooke, since 9/11 45 Americans have been killed by terrorism on US soil, while 48 people have been killed by right wing extremists.  http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks.html
Over 7,000 CHILDREN are killed EVERY year by gun violence. http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/the-toll-gun-violence-children
The odds are so much greater that you will be killed by an American NON-Muslim in this country with a gun.
How many people will be killed by someone without police/military response and/or gun training in a live shooter scenario? Think about the woman at a Walmart who was concealed carry licensed and drew and fired at a fleeing SHOPLIFTER. It was only by the grace of God that an innocent was not injured or killed.
Also in 2011 over 32,00 were killed by guns, and gun deaths are expected to exceed automobile deaths this year. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/americas-top-killing-machine/384440/
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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #169 on: December 06, 2015, 07:49:08 AM »
Brooke won this thread. The end
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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #170 on: December 06, 2015, 09:05:52 AM »
How so, Buckshot? I dare say not!
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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #171 on: December 06, 2015, 09:23:49 AM »
Brooke, since 9/11 45 Americans have been killed by terrorism on US soil, while 48 people have been killed by right wing extremists.  http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks.html
Over 7,000 CHILDREN are killed EVERY year by gun violence. http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/the-toll-gun-violence-children
The odds are so much greater that you will be killed by an American NON-Muslim in this country with a gun.
How many people will be killed by someone without police/military response and/or gun training in a live shooter scenario? Think about the woman at a Walmart who was concealed carry licensed and drew and fired at a fleeing SHOPLIFTER. It was only by the grace of God that an innocent was not injured or killed.
Also in 2011 over 32,00 were killed by guns, and gun deaths are expected to exceed automobile deaths this year. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/americas-top-killing-machine/384440/

Thieves over 18 should be executed, people who break into the workings mans home should be hung.
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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #172 on: December 06, 2015, 10:14:54 AM »
And that applies to this issue how? It was a different government, nation, motive, philosophy, everything. Are we blaming dem evil nazzies on why natcigg sees justice in sticking it to Johnny US citizen ( your cops ref, confirming my earlier post -and just sub rosa, don't worry, these feelings aren't permanent, keep coming back and the resentments will fade as you start to realize that a lot of the good guys could just as easily be you )?

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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #173 on: December 06, 2015, 10:18:16 AM »
Hmm.   I recall a certain terrorist act happening in Oklahoma City. 
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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #174 on: December 06, 2015, 11:58:59 AM »
You forgot the Khobar Towers bombing.
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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #175 on: December 06, 2015, 01:02:42 PM »
Brooke, since 9/11 45 Americans have been killed by terrorism on US soil, while 48 people have been killed by right wing extremists.  http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks.html
Over 7,000 CHILDREN are killed EVERY year by gun violence. http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/the-toll-gun-violence-children
The odds are so much greater that you will be killed by an American NON-Muslim in this country with a gun.
How many people will be killed by someone without police/military response and/or gun training in a live shooter scenario? Think about the woman at a Walmart who was concealed carry licensed and drew and fired at a fleeing SHOPLIFTER. It was only by the grace of God that an innocent was not injured or killed.
Also in 2011 over 32,00 were killed by guns, and gun deaths are expected to exceed automobile deaths this year. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/americas-top-killing-machine/384440/


Why did you leave out 9/11?  helps your agenda?

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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #176 on: December 06, 2015, 01:08:58 PM »
See Rule #14
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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #177 on: December 06, 2015, 01:45:10 PM »
Do you even Colorado, bro?
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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #178 on: December 06, 2015, 02:23:27 PM »
Do you even Colorado, bro?


For me, please use complete sentences and correct grammar.  I do not understand "Do you even Colorado, bro?".


For the record, I am not your "bro".  Maybe you are speaking to someone else who you consider your brother. 
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Re: Another terrorist attack: US Soil
« Reply #179 on: December 06, 2015, 02:24:57 PM »
I do not understand "Do you even Colorado, bro?".
Of course you don't.
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