Star Wars Episode VII in one word: Terrible (SPOILERS!)

[Serenity]

I know this is a stretch but hear me out.  Sidious said that Plagueis had found a way to keep the ones he cared about from dying.  As a sith i'm sure he cared more about himself than anybody.  That is a long time to be in hiding or exile or whatever if he did survive.  Just a thought.  Carry on.

He found away around the whole death thing.

You're very right, I'd forgotten that line. While a stretch, it COULD be something!

[Ack-Ack]

You're very right, I'd forgotten that line. While a stretch, it COULD be something!

The official book also gives a little bit of more info than the movie on Snoke.  In the book he tells Ren that he wasn't his (Snoke's) first apprentice and that he has been around for over a thousand years manipulating events all the while.

[Serenity]

The official book also gives a little bit of more info than the movie on Snoke.  In the book he tells Ren that he wasn't his (Snoke's) first apprentice and that he has been around for over a thousand years manipulating events all the while.

Hmmm... It seems you're on to something...

[Devil 505]

The official book also gives a little bit of more info than the movie on Snoke.  In the book he tells Ren that he wasn't his (Snoke's) first apprentice and that he has been around for over a thousand years manipulating events all the while.

Have you read the book itself or are you just relaying bits from it that you've heard?

Also, if you have read it: how good is the novelization?

[Devil 505]

Another complaint that I've heard around, not sure if anybody here mentioned it, is that John Williams' musical score is lacking.

Well, I just listened to all of it on youtube and I find it to be excellent. Not sure why its presence is not apparent in most of the film; possibly just an effect of the fast pace never allowing the viewer to take in the audio cues. But if you listen to the score on its own, you'll find it has all the hallmarks of a great Williams film score. Rey's theme is especially great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM&index=6&list=PLXaH20eIS38YEFXTknF7NQ-qotr-MU3Wd

[Zacherof]

I just want to know where "anakins" saber came from that Luke found..., which fell into God knows where when his hand got cut off by Vader in cloud city..... Or am I mistaken?

[Serenity]

Another complaint that I've heard around, not sure if anybody here mentioned it, is that John Williams' musical score is lacking.

Well, I just listened to all of it on youtube and I find it to be excellent. Not sure why its presence is not apparent in most of the film; possibly just an effect of the fast pace never allowing the viewer to take in the audio cues. But if you listen to the score on its own, you'll find it has all the hallmarks of a great Williams film score. Rey's theme is especially great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM&index=6&list=PLXaH20eIS38YEFXTknF7NQ-qotr-MU3Wd

It's funny you mention that, it didn't occur to me at the time, but looking back, I really don't recall HEARING much...

I just want to know where "anakins" saber came from that Luke found..., which fell into God knows where when his hand got cut off by Vader in cloud city..... Or am I mistaken?

That's actually Vader's saber, albeit the wrong color, and missing a few trim bits.

[Zacherof]

It's funny you mention that, it didn't occur to me at the time, but looking back, I really don't recall HEARING much...

That's actually Vader's saber, albeit the wrong color, and missing a few trim bits.

Which from my understanding wouldn't be that hard, just a few changes, the biggest being a different crystal as red means synthetic, which was easier to get than the natural ones Ie, blue, green, purple, yellow and black (even no only one dude had black Iirc

[Saxman]

It's funny you mention that, it didn't occur to me at the time, but looking back, I really don't recall HEARING much...

That's actually Vader's saber, albeit the wrong color, and missing a few trim bits.

No, it's the Anakin/Luke lightsaber.



TFA (note that it's being handed to Leia upside-down).



Original Prop



Vader

I'm sure we'll get an explanation on how she got it back, probably if she turns up in Episode VIII.

[Serenity]

No, it's the Anakin/Luke lightsaber.

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TFA (note that it's being handed to Leia upside-down).

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Original Prop

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Vader

I'm sure we'll get an explanation on how she got it back, probably if she turns up in Episode VIII.

Ah, you're right. I was looking at the black on it and thinking it looked like Vader's.

[Vraciu]

It was a joke. Who is this 50 foot Sith Lord junk? I thought all storm troopers were grown in some factory, cloned after Bobafet? Some homeless chick suddenly knows the engineering space of the Falcon? yada, yada, yada, yada....the quality of screen writing was sophomoric, the special effects seemed flimsy, holy cow....its not the $30 in tickets I dropped watching it with my wife and daughter but the late night.

Overall, this strikes me much like a bad movie series such as Home Alone 9 or something. Horrible enough no one takes it serious, enough children buy the tickets to make it profitable.

This is like Godfather III, never should have been made; never to be watched again.

boo

Slow your roll bashing Godfather III.  The flaw was the director casting his daughter as Michael's daughter.  Otherwise a fine film. 

[WaffenVW]

[Ack-Ack]

Have you read the book itself or are you just relaying bits from it that you've heard?

Read the book after I saw the movie.

Also, if you have read it: how good is the novelization?

It's a tad short, only coming in at 272 pages but for a movie novelization it's not bad and it does go into some more detail about some of the events in the movie.  For example, the first time we see Snoke and Ren together is when Snoke reveals what I had posted earlier and it also does a better job of explaining the <cough> science behind the Starkiller base planet.

[Devil 505]

Ok.

I saw the film again today and one thing about Starkiller Base that bugged me was the literal drawing of energy from a star, especially to the point of completely draining said star after only 2 uses. Also, the shot of the draining should have been placed with the first firing just to establish how the damn thing works.

[grizz441]

Empire strikes back > a new hope > the force awakens > return of the jedi > prequel trash