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AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« on: December 22, 2015, 07:25:51 AM »
AI to supplement  real live pilots.  The problem of too few real live players has a major impact on the game.  Players log in look at the numbers and log out depending on the actual number of players and fights.  Why can’t AI be used to supplement players in a country?

Why can’t AI be used to balance sides and do away with ENY?  Say the perfect number of player mix is 50 players  on each side, and say Knights has 55 and Bishop has 45 and Rooks has 30, why can’t AI be used to balance the sides so each side has 55.  Knights get no AI, Bishop get 10 AI and Rooks get 25 AI.   The balancing system adds and subtracts each sides AI to balance the numbers?

This would help with the problem of low numbers during off hours.

Discuss please.
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2015, 07:28:51 AM »
Because when you start having trouble flying against AI then you will be right back in here arguing that they be removed.
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2015, 07:32:49 AM »
Because when you start having trouble flying against AI then you will be right back in here arguing that they be removed.

NO not really, if I have trouble flying against AI, and I'm sure I will, because I stink as a combat pilot.   I'll have to try to do a better job.   Everyone complains about no fights, this will help improve that.
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2015, 09:02:36 AM »
I'd like to see AI bomber missions when player numbers are low. Have a system message announce "Bomber mission spotted on the way to A27, ETA 10 minutes" and have it count down every few minutes. This gives a focus for the action, gets interceptors up at A27 to defend/score kills and escort/sweepers up hunt the interceptors. The side with the lower numbers gets more or better bombers, or more frequent missions.

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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2015, 09:05:00 AM »
good idea, live players could escort the AI bombers as well as AI escorts.
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2015, 10:00:08 AM »
Traveler have you tried the AI missions in the Alpha?


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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2015, 10:01:06 AM »
yes, but that is not what this wish is about.
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2015, 10:13:42 AM »
I thought there might be some connection with the mix of AI wingmen and players attacking AI bandits and players.   :D

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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2015, 10:15:02 AM »
AI be used to balance sides and do away with ENY?
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2015, 10:28:51 AM »
AI be used to balance sides and do away with ENY?

I understand that's your wish but having an online arena with AI is a big part of what that requires. Having that already seemed worth mentioning.
Eliminating ENY and balancing with AI is a more complicated question. Who selects the aircraft models the AI flies? What missions? Just throwing AI into the mix doesn't level the playing field.
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2015, 10:30:25 AM »
That's why I asked for discussion.
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2015, 10:36:08 AM »
I think the key issue is that MA arena play is about coordinated efforts. Scoring is also likely to see some discussion.   :D
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2015, 10:38:22 AM »
That may be, but it's hard to have that is sides are out of balance and you can't find a fight because numbers are so low or ENY won't let you fly what you want.
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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2015, 10:59:08 AM »
That's true but if you aren't competing for MA score you could fight AI in another arena since ENY hasn't yet seen a better alternative. Those who want to duel only need one other player looking for a fight.

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Re: AI to supplement sides and do away with ENY.
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2015, 11:23:38 AM »
No.  There are a thousand games I can buy to play against a computer.  I come here to play against real people, not AI.

Adding AI does not fix anything in Aces High.  It makes a new game and throws out the old, which I still love playing.
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