Windows 10 - The Force is rebooting me

[Snork]

I installed 10 on my laptop and desktop soon after it became available. After the first glitch I switched back on the desktop (gamer) and am very glad I did. I kept 10 on the ASUS laptop to see how things went. It took a massive dump yesterday when some update tried to force its way in. More than 30 days since I "upgraded" so I couldn't go back to 7. I fought it all afternoon losing my files, programs and various keyboard functions. Since I don't use it for AH I wiped it and loaded Ubuntu. It now works much better than ever for normal computing purposes. Please, please, please, please, make AH Ubuntu friendly!

[Chalenge]

I think the way of the future with Windows is to install the OS to one drive (likely an SSD) and then move all of your Libraries (Desktop, Downloads, Documents, Music, etc) to another HDD, or SSD. Then when disasters like this happen (and it will continue to happen) you will have to reinstall and then re-associate those folders. Plus you should have a backup strategy that exists off of your system anyway.

[Skuzzy]

Well, it begins.  Microsoft has moved the Windows 10 installer from the optional category to the mandatory category which means if you have the auto-updater set to automatically download updates, it will get the Windows 10 installer now.  Even metered connections are going to get hit.

[Snork]

I've been fighting the updater on my desktop. I have it set to notify me when updates are available. When I go to update it goes through all kinds of trickery trying to get me to go with 10, to the point of making it very hard to update 7 properly. Then, when I finally get a list of updates for 7 I click the boxes and hit proceed and the dialogue box comes up saying, "Downloading Windows 10." After doing this a few times it finally allows the W7 updates. What a crock!

[Skuzzy]

Even though the nagware is nasty, there are Windows 7/8 updates which eat CPU time like crazy as they are only there to gather telemetry data for Microsoft.

See: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,71591.msg4998528.html#msg4998528

It should help reduce all that nonsense, including the nagware.

[Bizman]

Well, it begins.  Microsoft has moved the Windows 10 installer from the optional category to the mandatory category which means if you have the auto-updater set to automatically download updates, it will get the Windows 10 installer now.  Even metered connections are going to get hit.

It just occurred to me that it'd be time to install the latest updates before next Patch Tuesday. For now the unwanted updates seemed to be in the optional section, let's see if things change next week. My wife has automatic updates in her computer, mine is manual.

[Skuzzy]

It just occurred to me that it'd be time to install the latest updates before next Patch Tuesday. For now the unwanted updates seemed to be in the optional section, let's see if things change next week. My wife has automatic updates in her computer, mine is manual.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/222326-look-out-microsoft-shifts-windows-10-to-recommended-update-automatic-download along with a dozen other sites all talking about the update change yesterday.

[Bizman]

They surely don't make it too easy or low-tech for home users to manage the upgrade options: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351.

Seems like modifying the Registry would be the only option despite all of the warnings if you're using Windows Home flavours.

[Skuzzy]

They surely don't make it too easy or low-tech for home users to manage the upgrade options: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351.

Seems like modifying the Registry would be the only option despite all of the warnings if you're using Windows Home flavours.

Yes and I have been concerned about posting that.  Seen too many people render a computer into a brick whenever they try to edit the registry.

[Gman]

One thing that really put the nail in the coffin vis a vis hating Microsoft for me was that default setting in Win10 that opens up your connection to others downloading Win10, in effect using your bandwidth/$ to help Microsoft distribute their product - they don't even ask, it's just implied that you gave permission by clicking "yes" to the install of Win10.  Unreal. SO many people with data caps and slower connections have complained about this, I can't believe they haven't disabled it yet in an update.  It's the first thing to shut off in a LONG list of settings that need attention - and again, it's been impossible to get rid of that stupid Cortana feature, nothing has worked - it's disabled, but still in the task manager list of programs, happily being useless and eating up resources. 

[Mar]

Welp, my bro's Fail10 machine is having an update shoved down its throat as I type this, anyone else?

[Gman]

Depending how you have Win10 set up, it can do as it pleases in that department - check his updates settings.

The big news of course is anyone with an older version of windows that hasn't upgraded and has updates set to auto in any way, that stupid Win10 GWX thing will take that as permission to "update" your entire OS sometime shortly. 

[Skuzzy]

Depending how you have Win10 set up, it can do as it pleases in that department - check his updates settings.

The big news of course is anyone with an older version of windows that hasn't upgraded and has updates set to auto in any way, that stupid Win10 GWX thing will take that as permission to "update" your entire OS sometime shortly.

You can take measures to prevent it.  None of my computers have ever been bothered with the nagware.

[Chalenge]

There is only one thing I like about Windows 10. It has a reset button. Of course, it only works if you can get into Windows, but after an update if things have gone wrong it might be the fastest way to get back into working order.

I have 196 games on Steam. One of them doesn't work with Windows 10, but it never did. Guess I was spared this round of pain.

[Pudgie]

Yes and I have been concerned about posting that.  Seen too many people render a computer into a brick whenever they try to edit the registry.

Ok Skuzzy & Bizman,

Since reading this thread and reading thru the MS KB 3080351 that Bizman posted, I thought "Oh well, someone's gotta be brazen enough to try the registry hack that MS listed that would supposedly "permanently" block the Win 10 OS install"....and since ole Pudgie just happens to be using Win 7 Home Premeium 64x SP1......

Well I have chosen myself to be the sacrificial test lamb for all that is good in AH Land.
I may end up regretting this move but I've been getting bored lately so a wipe and OS reinstall would be something to do.

I guess I'm just a sucker waiting to be sold something............

  

So I have gone into the registry & made the mods and have created the registry key & DWORD value as shown and have rebooted my box.....all came back up fine. Checked registry and made note that the modded key & DWORD value is present and active.

Then I have gone into Windows Update & reversed the settings back to the way I had them set before all this Win 10 stuff started to test this out.

I'll post back on the results.

 

PS--Forgot to unhide & install the MS updates that put all the Win 10 stuff on my box. Have done this now........wish me well!