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Re: Anyone have experience with Cyberpower
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2016, 10:21:44 AM »
If someone has no interest whatsoever in building a system themselves, there won't be even the slightest sound made and no bucks spent, resulting in no computer at all. Back to the original question.  :headscratch:
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Re: Anyone have experience with Cyberpower
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2016, 10:31:02 AM »
If someone has no interest whatsoever in building a system themselves, there won't be even the slightest sound made and no bucks spent, resulting in no computer at all. Back to the original question.  :headscratch:

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Re: Anyone have experience with Cyberpower
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2016, 04:43:43 AM »
I don't know how much Cyberpower or DigitalStorm charge for the building. Our major builder shop charges €79 for building, including BIOS updating and startup and memory testing plus a 1 year warranty for the job. Installing Windows will be an extra €35. That'd add about 10% or less to a good gaming rig. Not bad for getting the responsibility off your shoulders. Note that we have 24% VAT for both the parts and work.
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Re: Anyone have experience with Cyberpower
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2016, 10:03:58 AM »
Bizman, my local shop that builds gaming machines all day long, since 1997 and the days of Janes sims, charges 70$ CDN, less than 50$ USD, to assemble and test components, install current drivers/bios/windows for all devices, and test run the machine for 24 hours.  Very inexpensive here, for excellent service.  They only have 5% tax nation wide as well.  They even waive the 70$ fee for me and some other long term customers I know, they figured after the 15th system I had built with them I'd paid enough I guess - not that I'd mind paying that if I had to.  It's just simpler as I live 1/2 the year away from home at times, often more, and playing mail order tag if any parts are DOA and whatnot, having them assemble it and ship it complete just makes it simpler.  Smaller shipping too, as they compress all the boxes into one box, which you can't do when they are full.

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Re: Anyone have experience with Cyberpower
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2016, 10:30:03 AM »
They have to be making money off of what they are giving you or they wouldn't waive that fee. Businesses go out of business when they don't make a profit.
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Re: Anyone have experience with Cyberpower
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2016, 11:33:19 AM »
Gman, that's exactly my point. The building fee is nominal in regard to that they perform some testing routines that are beyond reach of an average Joe. One might wonder where they get their profit since the component prices match those on the web. I suppose the building process has been optimized so that the actual building is the only task requiring the tech being fully at it. For a routinized builder it shouldn't take more than fifteen minutes or so unless neat cable management has been ordered for an extra fee. The testing routines run from a memory stick or CD by themselves.
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Re: Anyone have experience with Cyberpower
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2016, 12:20:50 PM »
Chalenge, as I said, I've been with them since they had a 2 room shop, not a dozen shops across the country.  I know the owners personally, and have spent tens of thousands there, in fact over 16$K in just the last 3.5 years, soon to be more.  And, as I said before, when I'm in town and want a new system, they let me build it there on their benches with their techs helping me out with any questions, so long as it's during slow/off hours and not interfering with their business. 

They also price match everything, they always match pcpartpicker prices whenever I build with them.  I'm sure they make $ still, the building fee being waived also means I have to wait a while to get a system when I'm not in town, as it's the lowest priority build (you can pay to move up in priority as well).  Like I said, I'd have no trouble paying it, it's just a loyalty rewards thing them waiving it.  Also, this will sound odd, but it's a Chinese owned company, and when I first met them and started buying PCs, I was working for Magnum Films and had just moved home from Hong Kong that year, and they knew I worked for one of the biggest film stars/producers back then, so I got the "gwai lo" hood pass in a way.  That said, I know another long term customer that they've waived the fee for as well, and he like myself, usually buys at least one of two gaming systems every year, continually upgrading 4 systems plus a gaming laptop. 

I honestly think price matching is a bigger financial bite than waiving a 50$USD fee - in fact I know it is, a 6700k SLI 980ti box with them, with 950 Samsung drives et al is around 4300$(CDN not US) in their builder, and the same system is 3850 on PCpartpicker, which they will match, so long as the client knows about the "ubeat" price match system and how to use it.  Many don't, but lots do.  So, losing 450$ in revenue from their retail prices (which are equal to NCIX their other competitor up here in the West) is a larger sting than a tiny 50$ building fee.  By far - but you're correct, regardless of all of that, I know they make $ - having a pile of stores and hundreds of very well paid employees, and surviving 20 years in very slim margin business proves that beyond any doubt IMO. 

Biz - My sense of their operation is that quite a large number of their customers don't use the price match, as it does take some work, and if those customers wanted to "work" to buy their PC, they'd be building it themselves from cheaper US sources anyway, right?  The majority, even a lot of "gamer" customers, aren't all that savvy on the building end or price match system IMO.   So, in the example I used, they make a bonus 450$ on top of the profit they still likely make on that same system when  price matching pcpartpicer/etc.  That can add up fast when I've seen their builders having dozens of systems being constructed on their work benches.


Biz - as I said above, they price match, so there must still be profit involved at the end of that process.  They sell a lot of PCs up here, to a lot of companies as well, but I'd guess 1/2 their business or more is retail/gamer type systems.  Their builders, I referred to them as the wonderkids in another post. They truly are, watching how fast these guys put stuff together, and with great work as well, is impressive, as you said, they usually do multiple systems per hour.  The software/test stuff like you said is largely a hands off deal and takes little of their time up. 
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Re: Anyone have experience with Cyberpower
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2016, 01:26:26 PM »
--- they'd be building it themselves from cheaper US sources anyway, right?  ---
That's a point I know absolutely nothing about. The US sources can be very cheap, but for me it's outside of the European Union which means I'd have to pay VAT and customs and whatnot. The VAT free limit is €22 and the customs free limit is €150, including mail costs. So buying from US doesn't pay here, at least not if you get caught by the customs.
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Re: Anyone have experience with Cyberpower
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2016, 09:05:53 AM »
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