Help with design of upcoming Eastern Front scenario

[Devil 505]

What will happen if the new version goes live before this event is set to run? Is someone working on converting the map already so we won't be hindered?

If there is a new map in the works, I'd suggest trimming off the lower 4 rows of sectors and including 4 sectors more land to the north - could be close to including Moscow with how this map scales.

[Brooke]

Looking good.

Let's make it "Dnieper, Winter '43".

We've got the 109G's of JG 52 (Hartmann, Barkhorn, Krupinski, Rall) and the 190A-5's of JG 54 (Kittel, Nowotny) and the ground attack capability of SG 2 (Rudel).

On the Soviet side, we've got the La-5's of 240th IAP (Kozhedub), the P-39's of 9 GIAD (Pokryshkin, Rechkalov), and still trying to decipher other stuff.  Most of the top Soviet aces where there -- just not sure of what units and what planes yet.

[Brooke]

What will happen if the new version goes live before this event is set to run?

The maps need to be translated into the new setup.  My impression is that it is easier than making a map from scratch, but you still need someone with map skills to do it.

I'm reaching out to the special-events terrain folks to see if they would agree to prioritize blkseaw.

[Brooke]

Could some folks out there give me some input on the ratio of 109G's to 190A's in this battle (along with references, if you have them)?

Same for Soviet side on P-39's, La-5's, Yak-7's, and possibly Yak-9's.

Also, anyone have the unit names for:
-- the Ju 88's present
-- Yak-7's
-- Yak-9's
-- Il-2's
-- Tu-2's (or Pe-2's if no Tu-2 units are found)

I also need unit names of some of the largest tank forces, both German and Soviet.

[Easyscor]

An observation from a curious bystander.

Both blacksea summer and winter are already on the Beta server. However, the last I looked, the fields need tweaking to the proper rotation but it is at least they're on the server. You can look at it.

[Brooke]

Excellent!

Thanks for the info! 

[BFOOT1]

This may sound selfish but I hope for this scenario we can still do it on AH2 servers. I'm graduating college this spring from universit. The laptop I run AH2 on runs it fine at constantly 60fps, but I don't know how it will handle AH3 with the terrain, clouds, and epic furballs. I'm hoping my graduation present will be a new rig, but we will see.

If we do it on the AH2 servers I'd love to be part of 109 group myself, working for the Ritterkruez myself  I have a good idea for my fiction writing I do!

[Devil 505]

Brooke I'll try to dig up some specifics for you, but the ratio of 109s to 190s will be between 4:1 and 3:1.

[Devil 505]

Here's the Luftwaffe fighter unit breakdown with aircraft and location as of November/December '43


Jg 51
I. Gruppe - 190A - Kirowograd in November. moved to Bobruisk, Belarus in December and changed to 109Gs. 
III Gruppe - 109G - Orscha, Belarus (technically off the map, but base in 4,19 is close)
IV Gruppe - 109G - Orscha

Jg 52
I Gruppe - 109G - Kirowograd
II Gruppe - 109G - Uman
III Gruppe - 109G - Apostolowo

Jg 54
I Gruppe - 190A - Orscha in December, Vitebsk,Belarus before that (even farther north than Orscha)
II Gruppe - 190A - Zhitomir

[Brooke]

Excellent. Thanks.

[Brooke]

Bfoot, it might be that the beta doesnt need much more than ah2 as long as you reduce a few settings.

I played around with beta a bit and it seemed that way to me.

However, i havent experimented with clouds yet in beta.

[SuBWaYCH]

This looks excellent!

[Brooke]

Here's the Luftwaffe fighter unit breakdown with aircraft and location as of November/December '43


Jg 51
I. Gruppe - 190A - Kirowograd in November. moved to Bobruisk, Belarus in December and changed to 109Gs. 
III Gruppe - 109G - Orscha, Belarus (technically off the map, but base in 4,19 is close)
IV Gruppe - 109G - Orscha

Jg 52
I Gruppe - 109G - Kirowograd
II Gruppe - 109G - Uman
III Gruppe - 109G - Apostolowo

Jg 54
I Gruppe - 190A - Orscha in December, Vitebsk,Belarus before that (even farther north than Orscha)
II Gruppe - 190A - Zhitomir

Were the 109G's mostly 109G-6's in winter, '43, or were any of the groups in G-2's?

[Devil 505]

Probably all G-6's by this point. The possible exception would be IV/Jg 51. They generally got the hand-me-down planes from the other Gruppe's in Russia.

EDIT: Even IV Gruppe Jg 51 had G-6s by December.

[Brooke]

What was the status of radar on each side in the battle in winter of '43?