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Offline Vraciu

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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #525 on: July 06, 2016, 12:51:48 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 06, 2016, 12:29:27 PM
If it can fly and shoot it is ready for combat. It just hasn't reached its full potential yet.


Untrue.

Weapons Delivery Accuracy (WDA) testing is still three years from completion.

http://theweek.com/articles/605165/f35-still-horribly-broken

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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #526 on: July 06, 2016, 12:57:27 PM »
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #527 on: July 06, 2016, 01:28:50 PM »
Wrong about what?
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #528 on: July 06, 2016, 01:30:10 PM »
If you dont even bother to read the replies you get then why are you even here?
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #529 on: July 06, 2016, 01:45:57 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #530 on: July 06, 2016, 01:48:24 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #531 on: July 06, 2016, 01:54:39 PM »
More grist for the mill...

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And the kicker—two generals confessed that the whole idea of a do-it-all jet is, in fact, so conceptually flawed that it’s unlikely the Pentagon will attempt it again. Right now the Air Force and Navy are laying plans for so-called “sixth-generation” jets to eventually supersede the F-35.

“You ought to think really hard about what you really need out of the sixth-generation fighter and how much overlap is there between what the Navy and the Air Force really need,” Air Force Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan, head of the JSF program, said at a military seminar in Washington, D.C., on March 10.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/17/military-admits-billion-dollar-war-toy-f-35-is-f-ked.html

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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #532 on: July 06, 2016, 01:55:22 PM »
The report also prompted a statement from the Joint Strike Fighter Program Officer defending the aircraft.

“Although the DOT&E report is factually accurate, it does not fully address program efforts to resolve known technical challenges and schedule risks … Our government and industry team has a proven track record of overcoming technical challenges discovered during developmental and operational testing and fleet operations, and delivering on program commitments,” the statement reads, in part.  “The F-35C has now ‘caught the wire’ more than 200 times at sea, the engine rub fix is incorporated on the production line and delivered engines are being retrofitted, and the F‑35B has performed more than 1,000 vertical landings safely.”
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #533 on: July 06, 2016, 01:55:35 PM »
Disagreeing is fine... As long as you back it up with something.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #534 on: July 06, 2016, 01:57:01 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 06, 2016, 01:55:35 PM
Disagreeing is fine... As long as you back it up with something.

Apparently not.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #535 on: July 06, 2016, 02:00:22 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 06, 2016, 01:55:35 PM
Disagreeing is fine... As long as you back it up with something.

Lol,  We do. But when you dismissing even Pentagon as unreliable...
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #536 on: July 06, 2016, 02:29:04 PM »
See, that's exactly what I'm talking about. If what you claim is true you could easily have backed it up with a quote, but you didn't.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #537 on: July 06, 2016, 02:33:50 PM »
There have been a number of links confirming the claims but since you dont bother to read them its no point of posting them again.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #538 on: July 06, 2016, 02:46:21 PM »
Quote from: Zimme83 on July 06, 2016, 02:33:50 PM
There have been a number of links confirming the claims but since you dont bother to read them its no point of posting them again.

$1.5T and counting.   That's a LOT of F-22s.

http://www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/FY2015/pdf/dod/2015f35jsf.pdf
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #539 on: July 06, 2016, 02:46:36 PM »
See Rule #4
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