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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #90 on: April 25, 2016, 12:42:52 PM »
I think these two things will soon become generally accepted as highly effective ways to reduce body fat.

1.  Eliminate sugar (table sugar, sucrose, fructose, fruit juice, honey, all of it -- "natural" or not) from your diet.  Why?  Because of this:  https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM

2.  If that alone doesn't do it, eat more meat and saturated fat in your diet as a proportion of the food you eat each day, reducing or eliminating things made from processed flour, processed rice, processed corn, and potatoes (i.e., bread, pasta, white rice, tortillas, potatoes).  Why?  Because of this:  http://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624433/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461606091&sr=8-1&keywords=the+big+fat+surprise

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #91 on: April 25, 2016, 12:50:54 PM »
By the way, if you can't make it without sugar in your diet, if you use dextrose instead of "table sugar", honey, or high-fructose corn syrup, you are better off.  Dextrose is glucose.  Table sugar (i.e., "sucrose") is glucose and fructose, as is honey.  High-fructose corn syrup is fructose.  Fructose is what specifically is bad for you base on . . . metabolic pathways and how it is metabolized.

A very long explanation of the science behind it:  https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM


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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #92 on: April 25, 2016, 01:12:39 PM »
I'm saying this:

X calories of food Y is not the same effect to body weight as X calories of food Z.  X is not all that matters.  Y and Z matter significantly.  Why?  Because metabolic pathways are different for different foods.

Here is one example for you:  glucose vs. fructose.  Both are sugar.  However, eating X calories of fructose results in enormously more fat production than X calories of glucose.  Here is a link for you that shows it in about 3 seconds:

https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM?t=3872

If you want to see what metabolic pathways are like and how they can be different for the same number of calories, here is a link for you:

https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM?t=2705

Your math isn't the problem.  Your problem is that you have too simplistic a model, and as a result, you think that the only thing that matters is how many calories you eat in a day.  I can tell you from references, first-hand experience, and second-hand experience with several friends and family that changing the composition of your diet can matter more.

And I've tried them all.  Including your Adkins, Modified Adkins (both of which are unsustainable) and talked with my physician, the CEO of UT Southwestern (cardiologist) and my sons nutritionist and all I've typed is what they've said.  They didn't say eat all the meat you want and you'll lose weight.  That in and of itself is atrocious.  They didn't say only eat "good calories" and you're golden...if it was as easy as you say, there would have been a list of foods you can eat that would prompt weight loss made up looooong ago Brooke.    "Eat these foods and you'll lose weight" hahaha.  That's senseless.
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #93 on: April 25, 2016, 01:24:08 PM »
Cut out the fast food and the junk food. Find a more healthy food that you actually LIKE to eat. Try that for awhile and you will lose some pounds.
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #94 on: April 25, 2016, 02:10:05 PM »
And I've tried them all.  Including your Adkins, Modified Adkins (both of which are unsustainable)

Why do you say that they are unsustainable?

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They didn't say eat all the meat you want and you'll lose weight.  That in and of itself is atrocious.

Not at all, if you are talking about being on a low-carb diet.  I did that, and lost weight.  So did the various other people I know.

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if it was as easy as you say, there would have been a list of foods you can eat that would prompt weight loss made up looooong ago Brooke.    "Eat these foods and you'll lose weight" hahaha.  That's senseless.

There is a list made up long ago.  Read "The Big Fat Surprise" -- it goes through the history as well.

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #95 on: April 25, 2016, 04:30:35 PM »
The biggest problems in the US are lack of exercise and portion control. I ride an exercise bike with a programmable "route" varying speeds and intensity every morning. For portion control I have a "special" bowl I use for cereal in the morning, measured once so I fill it to get 3/4 to 1 cup of cereal. Lunch is a single hot dog or burger. A yogurt or apple for an afternoon snack and supper. Eat what you want, but only fill the plate once except for veggies. I use a 9 inch plate and none of the food is to touch any other food. This make the portions right and easy to remember.

I lost 25 pounds in 3 months. The best thing is as you get use to eating this way it becomes the way you eat. No more huge meals, no more snacking around the clock. Drink plenty of water and you wont feel like your depriving your self of anything. I have another 25 to go. I'm hoping by the end of summer Im down to where I want to be.   

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #96 on: April 25, 2016, 06:38:55 PM »
Because you're a lazy lot I'll provide the link for you.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvdbtt_eat-fast-live-longer-hd_shortfilms

OK, I watched it.

Interesting.  It sounds like it would be really hard to do this on any of the plans.  Do you do any of them, what were the changes you observed, and how easy or hard is it to keep doing it indefinitely?

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #97 on: April 28, 2016, 06:08:38 AM »
Ok.. it's been a week.

3.4 lbs down.

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #98 on: April 28, 2016, 07:40:02 AM »
Well I just got back from vacation so I'm only down 1

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #99 on: April 28, 2016, 08:42:34 AM »
Only just found this thread. When we moved to Florida back on March 8th I stopped drinking soda, it was only one each day but now I drink more water and pay a little more attention to what I eat. Since that date I have now lost 17lbs, I was 208 and now 191 at 5ft 7in I still have more to go I know but I'm going to do it slowly.

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #100 on: April 28, 2016, 09:34:08 AM »
I lost a little over 20 lbs in three months with no exercise (170 to 147).  I got cancer and couldn't eat going through treatment.  I generally wouldn't recommend this path but I've been able to keep it off by simply watching my diet.

I'm currently on the same diet plan.  Only 1 week into it and have only lost 1-2 pounds but the MD expects me to lose 30-40 pounds over the 6 week treatment.

I too do not recommend this particular weight loss plan.
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #101 on: April 28, 2016, 10:07:23 AM »
Ok, I lost 2.8 lbs.    Sorry to see some of you guys losing it the hard way. 

On to week number 2. 
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #102 on: April 28, 2016, 02:42:33 PM »
Colmbo and BaldEagle, my best wishes to you guys, and I'm hoping fervently for excellent results for you.  <S>!

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #103 on: April 28, 2016, 09:16:48 PM »
Same best wishes to Baldeagl and Colmbo.
I remember when my wife went through chemo, she told the nurse "at least I get to lose some weight" the nurse replied " sorry but it doesn't work that way with breast cancer". Can't really put what the wife said but basically it was about all the poison and no benefits !!

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #104 on: April 30, 2016, 09:32:37 AM »
Hmmmm...protein diet what? Lmao.  Potatoes make that no fail list?

http://www.newser.com/story/223521/potato-only-dieter-drops-70-pounds.html
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