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Offline zack1234

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2016, 08:08:52 AM »
The Jews are good scholars and the Germans are good teachers :old:

Transatlantic trade deal? Tumble weed scene everyone?

You will all be scratching your bumholes when it's hits you :rofl

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2016, 08:27:42 AM »
Scurvy Dog!


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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2016, 03:04:51 PM »
Quote from: zack1234 on May 22, 2016, 06:20:46 AM
so was Churchill.

This is where you go astray.   Anyone from Poland would agree, even mentioning FDR or the Commie.   But please, continue with the contrived responses.
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2016, 03:33:55 PM »
Quote from: nrshida on May 22, 2016, 05:43:18 AM
Are you about to invoke the Boer War Concentration camp logical fallacy?  :)

iirc in 1920/1930's the RAF engaged in some nasty bombing campaigns of civilians around Indian/Pakistan/Sudan. Google RAF Air Policing.
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2016, 04:07:47 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on May 22, 2016, 06:06:01 AM
Germany and Russia is high on the list, but it is hard to think of a country that has caused more suffering and injustice in the world than Great Britain.

Is this why we never win Eurovision anymore?     :(
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2016, 04:19:10 PM »
Perhaps. The day you win the French and Irish votes you know you're forgiven...  :P
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #66 on: May 22, 2016, 04:22:02 PM »
Which reminds me of another great QI moment:

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2016, 06:48:57 PM »
Btw. did ze Germans know you were sending up the lower classes? "Mein Gott! Hier kommt someone with no manners whatsoever!"


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Offline Oldman731

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #68 on: May 22, 2016, 07:38:47 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on May 22, 2016, 12:44:35 AM
Maybe Semp's Jewish and lost people in the Shoah, I don't know, but his hatred seems irrational to me.


Well, then, just in case you think there has to be some sort of personal grudge to feel that way, let's take someone who isn't Jewish, like me.

I recently told a German friend in the EU government that he shouldn't feel responsible for atrocities committed before he was born.  Euros seem to me to be obsessed with inherited feuds, as illustrated by the Turks and Armenians, or the Serbs and Croats...the list goes on.  Hating people, much less killing people, for things that happened before you were alive is stupid.

That's not the point of our objections here, though.  Rudorffer was a participant, fighting to advance (or preserve) a monstrous society.  I have no respect for that.

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2016, 07:52:26 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on May 22, 2016, 12:44:35 AM


Maybe Semp's Jewish and lost people in the Shoah, I don't know, but his hatred seems irrational to me.

maybe that's why you like nazis so much.  you believe much in jewish conspiracies?


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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2016, 08:26:37 PM »
Quote from: Oldman731 on May 22, 2016, 07:38:47 PM

Rudorffer was a participant, fighting to advance (or preserve) a monstrous society.  I have no respect for that.

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But you do respect our allies in the Soviet Air Force I take it? Our friends in the east who fought for an equally if not more monstrous society. The monstrous society Rudorffer fought against for most of the war. Fight for Nazi Germany or let the Soviet Union win... Heh, that's a choice I'm glad I don't have to make. And you assume Rudorffer knew how monstrous German society was at the time he fought. That he somehow knew the biggest secret in Germany. And if we consider the fact that the Holocaust was kept a secret from most Germans, how monstrous was German society compared to the allied nations, primarily the Soviet Union, the British Empire and the United States? I grant you that the United States was most likely the least monstrous of these societies, but we're still talking about a society that practiced racial segregation well into the 1960s, if not even longer. The "Last Massacre" of American Indians aka the Battle of Kelley Creek happened in 1911, well within living memory by the time of WWII. People these days tend to forget that the Nazis weren't the only white supremacists around in the early 20th century. But you know, it's like Churchill said: "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it."


Quote from: guncrasher on May 22, 2016, 07:52:26 PM
maybe that's why you like nazis so much.  you believe much in jewish conspiracies?


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No. I'm in fact a very strange European. I'm one of the few staunch Israel supporters over here.
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #71 on: May 22, 2016, 08:57:18 PM »
but we are talking about a nazi guy that just died. we arent talking about any other country.


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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2016, 09:20:16 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on May 22, 2016, 08:26:37 PM
And you assume Rudorffer knew how monstrous German society was at the time he fought. That he somehow knew the biggest secret in Germany.


Big secret.  Got it.

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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2016, 10:06:43 PM »
Last I checked the war has been over for sometime now. Furthermore I suspect the pilot in question was not given much of a choice on wether or not to fight.
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Re: Erich Rudorffer
« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2016, 10:08:03 PM »
P.S, in before the lock for I suspect this thread is not long for the world
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